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(10-21-2025, 05:50 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The only way your ""condition"" would be caused by Venom is is you were bitten by a snake.
There is no credible evidence that COVID‑19 mRNA vaccines contain snake venom.
Not to mention the published ingredient lists which also fail to list venom.
Can you provide evidence that is not a pod cast/blog, and/or that has not been not fact checked and debunked that supports your dubious claims?
I'm apt to ponder that's a no and nether can Dr Ardis.
And if you could show me some real science also that might be nice. 
But your Dr Ardis who is a ""chiropractor"" and pod caster.
As opposed to an actual immunologist or virologist.
Has been debunked and that's clear if you read the links/quotes provided.
Your Quotes are just opinions of unknown so called experts. With zero evidence. Synthetic Venom can enter your body through air food or water. Or hint. Injected
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(10-21-2025, 05:50 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The only way your ""condition"" would be caused by Venom is is you were bitten by a snake.
There is no credible evidence that COVID‑19 mRNA vaccines contain snake venom.
Not to mention the published ingredient lists which also fail to list venom.
Can you provide evidence that is not a pod cast/blog, and/or that has not been not fact checked and debunked that supports your dubious claims?
I'm apt to ponder that's a no and nether can Dr Ardis.
And if you could show me some real science also that might be nice. 
But your Dr Ardis who is a ""chiropractor"" and pod caster.
As opposed to an actual immunologist or virologist.
Has been debunked and that's clear if you read the links/quotes provided.
Actually, the covid 19 virus and probably the vaccine could have a chemical similar to snake venom in it, but it acts differently from what I read. It permeats the cell membrane and the lipids from the membrane leak out.
Here is an article about the snake venom relationship of the virus.
But there is still clotting causing the problems with the virus, sore muscles are a symptom to show that is happening. The type of chemistry does not stop clotting of blood, which would have to be taken care of with medicines after the fact. So they give some covid antiviral meds that actually fix the virus or vaccine induced clotting factors...I think I read that Rendizavor and even hydroxychloraquine have anticlotting chemistry...don't know about the other treatments, the articles did not address others. So, there is some real to the original post, but the snake venom relationship is not relevant to blood anti-clotting, it is just to lipid extraction from cell membranes and is not snake venom actually, it just has some properties related to venoms chemistry.
https://frontlinegenomics.com/snake-veno...mortality/
I had a NIH research article explaining a lot of properties of the virus they had discovered, but when I copied that one.....after midnight, I did not come here and paste it before copying another link...screwed up. That article was very long and I read half of it before finally scrolling down to the conclusions. The virus causes blood clotting, and they explained the path that caused it and the property of the lipid leaking out the membrane was in that one....
Since I do a real lot of medical and science research, my searches usually send me to medical and geneology research when I type, not the crap that their browser and windows sends those who research other paths get. The wife's computer sucks, hers sends me to sites more of what people doing knitting and reading novels or watching soap operas would be researching. I can't find anything much on her laptop that is real evidence for medicines and food science...but lots on cooking tasty unhealthy food recipies will come up if I research food chemistry on that one...google browser.
What I look up on the net also effects my Facebook adds even though I have that turned off....I still get ads for anything I have researched so Facebook sucks.
I;m tired, time to turn in, got to get up at six forty five to start getting coffee made so I can get the kids fed and out to the bus when the grandson-in-law brings the kids over to the house before work. I then have to get the kids off the bus at eight minutes to four...one is eight, the other is five...make a nutritious supper, because the school lunches are all highly processed foods like hot dogs and chicken nuggets and pizza and breadsticks. To keep them healthy and able to think straight we have to feed them at least one good healthy meal a day. My wife is an expert at making highly processed junk foods from scratch or from boxes...they are hard on my epilepsy...so I cook a lot now
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(10-21-2025, 11:46 PM)rickymouse Wrote: Actually, the covid 19 virus and probably the vaccine could have a chemical similar to snake venom in it, but it acts differently from what I read. It permeats the cell membrane and the lipids from the membrane leak out.
Here is an article about the snake venom relationship of the virus.
But there is still clotting causing the problems with the virus, sore muscles are a symptom to show that is happening. The type of chemistry does not stop clotting of blood, which would have to be taken care of with medicines after the fact. So they give some covid antiviral meds that actually fix the virus or vaccine induced clotting factors...I think I read that Rendizavor and even hydroxychloraquine have anticlotting chemistry...don't know about the other treatments, the articles did not address others. So, there is some real to the original post, but the snake venom relationship is not relevant to blood anti-clotting, it is just to lipid extraction from cell membranes and is not snake venom actually, it just has some properties related to venoms chemistry.
https://frontlinegenomics.com/snake-veno...mortality/
I had a NIH research article explaining a lot of properties of the virus they had discovered, but when I copied that one.....after midnight, I did not come here and paste it before copying another link...screwed up. That article was very long and I read half of it before finally scrolling down to the conclusions. The virus causes blood clotting, and they explained the path that caused it and the property of the lipid leaking out the membrane was in that one....
Since I do a real lot of medical and science research, my searches usually send me to medical and geneology research when I type, not the crap that their browser and windows sends those who research other paths get. The wife's computer sucks, hers sends me to sites more of what people doing knitting and reading novels or watching soap operas would be researching. I can't find anything much on her laptop that is real evidence for medicines and food science...but lots on cooking tasty unhealthy food recipies will come up if I research food chemistry on that one...google browser.
What I look up on the net also effects my Facebook adds even though I have that turned off....I still get ads for anything I have researched so Facebook sucks.
I;m tired, time to turn in, got to get up at six forty five to start getting coffee made so I can get the kids fed and out to the bus when the grandson-in-law brings the kids over to the house before work. I then have to get the kids off the bus at eight minutes to four...one is eight, the other is five...make a nutritious supper, because the school lunches are all highly processed foods like hot dogs and chicken nuggets and pizza and breadsticks. To keep them healthy and able to think straight we have to feed them at least one good healthy meal a day. My wife is an expert at making highly processed junk foods from scratch or from boxes...they are hard on my epilepsy...so I cook a lot now
Similar is not snake venom.
So no snake venom in mRNA vaccines, just related properties.
If in doubt, see the ingredient lists, which don't list venom.
Lots of different chemical compounds have similar properties, but that does not make them the same.
The virus uses spike proteins, not venom-like toxins, to enter cells.
Think about all the claims that were made about COVID-19 and the mRNA vaccines.
40% of us were supposed to be dead with VAIDS, long, long ago, according to quite a few peeps.
And yet here we are 5 years later, the majority of the people vaccinated doing just fine.
At some point, you have to accept that a lot of the stuff being said amounted to nothing more than doom porn.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(10-21-2025, 06:02 PM)Knows Wrote: Your Quotes are just opinions of unknown so called experts. With zero evidence. Synthetic Venom can enter your body through air food or water. Or hint. Injected [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmi...toting.gif]
So now it's "Synthetic" venom. LoL
And so-called experts who are actually qualified in the applicable fields.
As opposed to debunked chiropractors who do podcasts.
Your Dr Adris claims Nicotine cures neuro/autoimmune diseases, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Glioblastoma, Hypothyroidism, MS, etc.
Shame that the rigorous clinical trials performed do not confirm that nicotine cures any of those.
He frames nicotine as benign or even therapeutic when in reality the substance is addictive and has known risks.
There is no credible evidence of global plots to ban nicotine for hidden agendas.
Any more than there is of venom in mRNA vaccines.
Can i ask, do you also believe that there are nano IC(chips) along with the ""venom"" in the vaccines?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(10-21-2025, 05:15 PM)Knows Wrote: If you smoke it American Spirit is a good option. I just go to Walmart and buy 4mg Equate gum. Break them in half. I like the cinnamon flavor.
If I have to I will grown my own plants. Possibly experiment with alcohol tinctures.
I didn’t start smoking American Spirits til I was almost 45, but now smoke about 4 or 5 cigarettes per day.
My main health kick is sperm retention, but after almost 1100 days of that, I had begun a rather laborious change in my bowels, and it seems like decades of stuck poop and pee is in the process of being drained.
The nausea that is felt from smoking a cigarette really seems to help trigger a swamp draining, so to speak. I speculated it might help loosen nerves is why I started.
It probably would not have been helpful to pick up the habit, had I not already been long into my health regime of draining the swamp, cuz if so, it would have only caused nausea, but not enough to drain the swamp significantly, which may have lead to more adverse reactions than benefits.
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(10-22-2025, 04:48 AM)andy06shake Wrote: There is no credible evidence of global plots to ban nicotine for hidden agendas.
Why the hell ban something that rakes in billions each year in tax?
Grow your own, IT'S EASY!
Wisdom knocks quietly, always listen carefully.... and be a River flowing calmly.
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(10-22-2025, 04:47 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Similar is not snake venom.
So no snake venom in mRNA vaccines, just related properties.
If in doubt, see the ingredient lists, which don't list venom.
Lots of different chemical compounds have similar properties, but that does not make them the same.
The virus uses spike proteins, not venom-like toxins, to enter cells.
Think about all the claims that were made about COVID-19 and the mRNA vaccines.
40% of us were supposed to be dead with VAIDS, long, long ago, according to quite a few peeps.
And yet here we are 5 years later, the majority of the people vaccinated doing just fine.
At some point, you have to accept that a lot of the stuff being said amounted to nothing more than doom porn.
I do know about twenty people, some teenage boys, that had some issues with the vaccine. These issues were initially denied as related by the people who said they were perfectly safe and effective. Later on, they were mostly proven to be related. I am not the only one who is intolerant to the adjuvants,and some of those people who knew they were intolerant to the glycols believed the vaccine was safe and effective for them....I share the glycol intolerance with people I know and they had problems associated with that intolerance, but none of those people I knew with that intolerance died, they just got some lung and other issues.
I read the pharma report on both of the vaccines and the pfieser report clearly stated that those allergic to any of the ingredients should not take the vaccine, so did Fauci mention that initially, but later on that info was taken off and said that it was completely safe. Now that glycol intolerance coupled to an infection would make it much worse in my opinion. Vaccines I have immunity to before hand cause a cyokine storm for me...or maybe bradykin, because the symptoms are identical or worse than I get from the virus. So, I know that others would have the same issue, but I did have the covid before the vaccine was out, so I could have had a major issue with the vaccine. My doctor years back explained why I got such a bad reaction to the flu shot, and another explained my reaction to the DTAP as being related to past infections from wooping cough decades before. So I have medical evidence to prove my intolerance...It is in my medical records, I made sure they transferred that information to my medical records when they went digital...but now the hospital and doctors office decided to change software, and they do not look at the original information and I do not yet have access to their new system to update that to show my reactions to medicines. It would take me a couple of new appointments to get a doctor to reload the information into the new system, basically my new records have no reactions or present conditions listed. I am not going to the doctors office to start all that again, if they switched software, they should have entered all the present known stuff into the new system. I learned that the new system had changed last appointment, and the doctor said I would need to do another appointment to fix that, I was there for my yearly senior free physical thing...what a waste of time, they could not even address any illnesses in that, it would take a separate appointment.
I have lost faith in most of the medical system now. It seems like they do not listen to what you say and always want to prescribe tests you already went to to prove a condition. I was testede three times to verify I have tachychardia...every test from each new doctor said I had it, and why would I need that test if the doctors were from the same medical office....justr because a doctor retires his patient papers should still be available in that office...but each doctor wanted evidence that stated that I had it. I was not trying to get disability or anything at the time, I just wanted the new doctor to know I had it and the medicines they tried did not help the condition...then the new doctors again didn't listen to me and tried to prescribe a different beta blocker, which made me not be able to think right, I owned a business, I needed to think right.
Every one of those tests I took for the tachychardia came back as tachychardia of unknown cause. The last doctor wanted to do one too, I told him I already had three done and I could not take the medicne, so what did he do, he tried to prescribe me Beta blockers because he got me all worked up and my blood pressure went up. I denied the medication, I told him I was not taking them. He also tried giving me a rescription for statins, my total cholesterol was just over the top and LDL was at the top of the normal range, and the HDL was fine, triglicerides were high, maybe it was those ten huge fried chicken legs I ate from the supermarket the two days before the appointment that made it go high. I researched that after the appointment, it appears things you eat up to five days before WILL elevate your test results. Maybe they should tell the doctors that the people who developed the test clearly state that in the use of it in medical practice.
Ok, enough ranting, I used to have good doctors who listened, now they think everyone is a conspiracy theorist looking at crazy sites to form their opinions, I look at prestigious medical sites like Mayo, and Harvard, and the Cleveland clinic and NIH and journal entries and only look at sites stating pseudo stuff to try to figure if there is any basis for their beliefs...and often there is if you research it but most people would never think that they are telling the truth because deceit is being pushed in the medical industry. give someone a little knowledge and a degree and they believe they know everything. I on the other hand know that I still have to keep learning and how to consolidate the information to understand it's usefulness and if it is applicable to what you are experiencing. Many diseases and conditions have nine tenths of the symptoms that match, and because everyone's metabolism is different, some of the symptoms do not get experienced. same disease or condition can have very different symptoms.
The thing is old medicnes were broadform, they treated multiple diseases that shared symptoms. Now they are making medicines more specific to the disease and that makes side effects more problematic if the doctor makes the wrong prognosis. They do more testing to narrow it down, but that has really increased the cost of insurance and deductibles and copays which makes people broke.
Healthcare in this country was better in the sevbenties and eighties.
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(10-22-2025, 10:52 AM)rickymouse Wrote: I do know about twenty people, some teenage boys, that had some issues with the vaccine. These issues were initially denied as related by the people who said they were perfectly safe and effective. Later on, they were mostly proven to be related. I am not the only one who is intolerant to the adjuvants,and some of those people who knew they were intolerant to the glycols believed the vaccine was safe and effective for them....I share the glycol intolerance with people I know and they had problems associated with that intolerance, but none of those people I knew with that intolerance died, they just got some lung and other issues.
I read the pharma report on both of the vaccines and the pfieser report clearly stated that those allergic to any of the ingredients should not take the vaccine, so did Fauci mention that initially, but later on that info was taken off and said that it was completely safe. Now that glycol intolerance coupled to an infection would make it much worse in my opinion. Vaccines I have immunity to before hand cause a cyokine storm for me...or maybe bradykin, because the symptoms are identical or worse than I get from the virus. So, I know that others would have the same issue, but I did have the covid before the vaccine was out, so I could have had a major issue with the vaccine. My doctor years back explained why I got such a bad reaction to the flu shot, and another explained my reaction to the DTAP as being related to past infections from wooping cough decades before. So I have medical evidence to prove my intolerance...It is in my medical records, I made sure they transferred that information to my medical records when they went digital...but now the hospital and doctors office decided to change software, and they do not look at the original information and I do not yet have access to their new system to update that to show my reactions to medicines. It would take me a couple of new appointments to get a doctor to reload the information into the new system, basically my new records have no reactions or present conditions listed. I am not going to the doctors office to start all that again, if they switched software, they should have entered all the present known stuff into the new system. I learned that the new system had changed last appointment, and the doctor said I would need to do another appointment to fix that, I was there for my yearly senior free physical thing...what a waste of time, they could not even address any illnesses in that, it would take a separate appointment.
I have lost faith in most of the medical system now. It seems like they do not listen to what you say and always want to prescribe tests you already went to to prove a condition. I was testede three times to verify I have tachychardia...every test from each new doctor said I had it, and why would I need that test if the doctors were from the same medical office....justr because a doctor retires his patient papers should still be available in that office...but each doctor wanted evidence that stated that I had it. I was not trying to get disability or anything at the time, I just wanted the new doctor to know I had it and the medicines they tried did not help the condition...then the new doctors again didn't listen to me and tried to prescribe a different beta blocker, which made me not be able to think right, I owned a business, I needed to think right.
Every one of those tests I took for the tachychardia came back as tachychardia of unknown cause. The last doctor wanted to do one too, I told him I already had three done and I could not take the medicne, so what did he do, he tried to prescribe me Beta blockers because he got me all worked up and my blood pressure went up. I denied the medication, I told him I was not taking them. He also tried giving me a rescription for statins, my total cholesterol was just over the top and LDL was at the top of the normal range, and the HDL was fine, triglicerides were high, maybe it was those ten huge fried chicken legs I ate from the supermarket the two days before the appointment that made it go high. I researched that after the appointment, it appears things you eat up to five days before WILL elevate your test results. Maybe they should tell the doctors that the people who developed the test clearly state that in the use of it in medical practice.
Ok, enough ranting, I used to have good doctors who listened, now they think everyone is a conspiracy theorist looking at crazy sites to form their opinions, I look at prestigious medical sites like Mayo, and Harvard, and the Cleveland clinic and NIH and journal entries and only look at sites stating pseudo stuff to try to figure if there is any basis for their beliefs...and often there is if you research it but most people would never think that they are telling the truth because deceit is being pushed in the medical industry. give someone a little knowledge and a degree and they believe they know everything. I on the other hand know that I still have to keep learning and how to consolidate the information to understand it's usefulness and if it is applicable to what you are experiencing. Many diseases and conditions have nine tenths of the symptoms that match, and because everyone's metabolism is different, some of the symptoms do not get experienced. same disease or condition can have very different symptoms.
The thing is old medicnes were broadform, they treated multiple diseases that shared symptoms. Now they are making medicines more specific to the disease and that makes side effects more problematic if the doctor makes the wrong prognosis. They do more testing to narrow it down, but that has really increased the cost of insurance and deductibles and copays which makes people broke.
Healthcare in this country was better in the sevbenties and eighties.
There are apt to be problems with the vaccines.
Simply down to the fact that no two people are alike.
When we choose to introduce any foreign substances into our system, there are always risks involved.
And people are apt to be allergic to things.
My Mrs pal is allergic to semen of all things, but she still has 3 kids. LoL
Anecdotes aside Rickymouse, quite a few of my family members work in or around the medical professions.
They are nice people, doing a job, with the skills and funding made available.
My brother still exists, and only because he received a heart transplant, which, without services like the NHS, simply would not have been financially possible.
The reason for the state of the service(cant' really speak for the US) is that it was raped and pillaged by subsequent Tory administrations six ways from Sunday, for the past two decades.
And that trend seems to be continuing with this Labour government, which is not exactly willing or able to fix the mess.
Anyhoo i digress, i suppose, so on topic, and suffice to say.
I don't think Nicotine is the life-saving miracle drug that this Dr seems to think it is.
I wish the matter were otherwise.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(10-22-2025, 10:48 AM)Nerb Wrote: Why the hell ban something that rakes in billions each year in tax?
Grow your own, IT'S EASY!
And oh by Jebus, the tax indeed.
Quote:In the UK, the tax on cigarettes is calculated as the higher of 16.5% of the retail price plus £334.58 per 1,000 cigarettes, or a flat £446.67 per 1,000 cigarettes.
I don't think it's as bad in the US, or certain parts of Europe.
But it's worse in the likes of Australia.
I think you are allowed by law to have a few Tobacco plants here in the UK.
I'm not sure how challenging it si to grow all the same.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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I think the medical system in other countries is better than in the USA these days. I would rather have socialized medicine and take the profit out of people being sick.
What country are you from?
Nicotine can be used as a medicine, but that can be replaced with hot pickled eggs with pickled veggies for most part. Or even moderate amounts of hot sauce. Other elements of tobacco smoke have health benefits too, but also have negative effects, and like anything, moderation is key, and also only smoking when you need the treatment is important. If I don't drink coffee, I rarely smoke. When I used to drink beer, I would have a cigarette in my hand a lot.
I have friends and relatives working for the health system too, I actually speak to them about things, they complain a lot about problems in the system. Around here, they learn if you want to get cured of an issue you need to go to Mayo Clinic or to Green Bay, we do not get the best doctors here usually
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