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(01-14-2026, 03:02 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I'm not posting for other American's reports and opinions to get debunked.
I'm posting for an alternative look at the problems many see here with how your government is failing and stripping people of their rights. That's how I see it.
I don't need you to debunk anything because Trump is losing in the courtroom in almost every way, which does not require anything I post from other Americans' positions to be debunked.
I find many topics here to be interesting studies, it's not emotional it is intellectual something perhaps you don't understand? and being a lifelong learner this is a good life choice.
Nothing I post gets debunked by independent means, as right wing bias is not debunking anything.
If you wish to ignore ex-ICE agents' claims of how screwed up things are there, that is your choice, but you have no right here to tell anyone else here how or what to post.
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(01-14-2026, 03:02 PM)quintessentone Wrote: you have no right here to tell anyone else here how or what to post.
 Learn how to read. I didn't say you can't do it. I said you should reevaluate your choices because the agenda you are pushing isn't working ... not on us and not for you.
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(01-14-2026, 03:00 PM)David64 Wrote: She's moving around and screaming a lot for someone who can't breathe.
You can tell this is the type of person who is facing the consequences of their own actions for the first time.
These idiots are finally figuring out FAFO is not just a slogan.
The FAFO works both ways, for ICE too.
"Immigrant‑rights organizations and watchdogs do not deny threats against officers but emphasize the record of harm and deaths in ICE custody as the central problem driving protests, arguing that calls for abolishing or reforming ICE respond to systemic abuses such as inadequate care and a recent rise in detention deaths [sup] [9] [4][/sup]. These groups and legal experts often dispute framing that equates critical rhetoric with encouragement of violence, urging focus on accountability for agency conduct [sup] [9] [10][/sup]."
ICE and their families regularly receive death threats...
"The only journey is the one within."
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(01-14-2026, 01:53 PM)quintessentone Wrote: From the source I posted, allegedly 2nd, 4th and 5th have been reported not yet adjudicated. I would imagine it would be tough or almost impossible to get evidence because of the lack of transparency and accountability with your government.
I couldn't find any reference in your source about the 2nd amendment, so I won't comment on that.
The 4th amendment, depending on how they are trying to argue that ICE is violating it determines how true or false that is. The issue ultimately lies in the fact that they are already violating federal law by being here illegally.
The 5th amendment is a similar issue. Once it has been verified that they are here illegally it's a pretty open and shut case.
But once it's been taken to court we'll know more about how factual those claims are.
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(01-14-2026, 03:02 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I'm not posting for other American's reports and opinions to get debunked.
I'm posting for an alternative look at the problems many see here with how your government is failing and stripping people of their rights. That's how I see it.
I don't need you to debunk anything because Trump is losing in the courtroom in almost every way, which does not require anything I post from other Americans' positions to be debunked.
I find many topics here to be interesting studies, it's not emotional it is intellectual something perhaps you don't understand? and being a lifelong learner this is a good life choice.
Nothing I post gets debunked by independent means, as right wing bias is not debunking anything.
If you wish to ignore ex-ICE agents' claims of how screwed up things are there, that is your choice, but you have no right here to tell anyone else here how or what to post.
I see the garbage you post being debunked frequently by RW and LW sources. No one’s buying the bs you’re screeching. You post mindless drivel for mindless brainwashed people. And..…you call it winning
Keep posting because all it does is let us know how ignorant and bat shit crazy the party you defend really is. You’re hurting your own cause, after seeing all the crap you post removes all doubt.
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(01-14-2026, 03:46 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: I see the garbage you post being debunked frequently by RW and LW sources. No one’s buying the bs you’re screeching. You post mindless drivel for mindless brainwashed people. And..…you call it winning 
Keep posting because all it does is let us know how ignorant and bat shit crazy the party you defend really is. You’re hurting your own cause, after seeing all the crap you post removes all doubt.
It's not crap though, only to a very few people here.
Out there in the real world, the tide is rising against Trump and his ICE army and the people are taking it to the streets to stand up for their rights.
It's both parties that are rising up against Trump and his government now, don't any of you read independent news to get the truth?
"The only journey is the one within."
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(01-14-2026, 03:50 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It's not crap though, only to a very few people here.
Out there in the real world, the tide is rising against Trump and his ICE army and the people are taking it to the streets to stand up for their rights.
It's both parties that are rising up against Trump and his government now, don't any of you read independent news to get the truth?
But it is crap. At one point didn’t you say she swerved to miss him and he never got hit? That was total crap.
In the real world most people are rallying for Trump. I see it all over the net. True Americans calling out the left’s BS and propaganda, like you post. Most people think y’all are idiots.
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(01-14-2026, 03:56 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: But it is crap. At one point didn’t you say she swerved to miss him and he never got hit? That was total crap.
In the real world most people are rallying for Trump. I see it all over the net. True Americans calling out the left’s BS and propaganda, like you post. Most people think y’all are idiots.
I said it looked like her wheels were turned away from him and nobody here has any video footage of seeing him being hit by the car, nor can anyone here find any independent interview with hospital staff proving he was actually injured. There is no evidence that proves the narrative that you are pushing.
People in all parties and walks of life are not rallying for Trump from the independent news sources that I read. But the proof will be in the pudding come midterm voting, that is, if Trump doesn't delete all democratic voter registrations by then.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(01-14-2026, 03:46 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: I see the garbage you post being debunked frequently by RW and LW sources.
They’re not debunking anything.
They’re denying.
Big difference.
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(01-14-2026, 04:10 PM)ANNEE Wrote: They’re not debunking anything.
They’re denying.
Big difference.
Absolutely, they offer no evidence to refute it except they keep posting those same videos which don't show anything they are claiming happened.
"The only journey is the one within."
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