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New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good
(01-13-2026, 11:13 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Is this the actual Noem quote?



Do you have any additional quotes of Noem you would like to produce.


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/ne...-good-ice/

"(Good) then proceeded to weaponize her vehicle and she attempted to run a law enforcement officer over. This appears as an attempt to kill or to cause bodily harm to agents, an act of domestic terrorism," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said hours after the shooting.
(01-14-2026, 09:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: "Implications of Inadequate Training
The lack of comprehensive training for ICE agents has raised alarms among former officials and community advocates. John Sandweg, a former acting director of ICE, expressed concerns that the agency may not be able to adequately train its rapidly expanding workforce. This situation is particularly troubling given the agency's history of controversial enforcement practices, which have included aggressive tactics that can lead to community fear and mistrust. 

POLITICOCommunity ImpactThe implications of hiring untrained agents extend beyond operational efficiency; they also affect community relations and public safety. The aggressive enforcement tactics employed by some ICE agents, including the use of force and unmarked vehicles, have led to widespread criticism and protests. Many community members feel threatened by the presence of agents who may not be adequately prepared to handle complex situations involving vulnerable populations. 

In summary, the current approach to hiring and training ICE agents raises significant concerns about their ability to perform their duties effectively and ethically, potentially leading to negative consequences for both the agents and the communities they serve."

Fast-Tracked and Under-Trained: Why ICE’s Hiring Spree Should Worry Everyone - Solow, Hartnett and Galvan Immigration Law

ICE agents are sorely untrained and can't control their childish anger. They are reckless and dangerous.

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"Rep. Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, is asking for hiring records and other information to determine whether any of the roughly 1,600 people charged in connection with the attack are among the ranks of masked Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection officers “that have dragged, tackled, beaten, tased, shot, and killed citizens and non-citizens alike in communities across the country.”"

Democrats want to know if ICE is hiring Jan 6 rioters

What I've been wondering all along, are some of the hires the rioters from Jan. 6. Let's find out.

Cry harder.

They will keep shooting criminals that are trying to run them over.

I 100% support them defending themselves.
(01-14-2026, 09:40 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/ne...-good-ice/

"(Good) then proceeded to weaponize her vehicle and she attempted to run a law enforcement officer over. This appears as an attempt to kill or to cause bodily harm to agents, an act of domestic terrorism," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said hours after the shooting.


Hello.

I already quoted what she said with the context of your actual statement.


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(01-14-2026, 09:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: What I've been wondering all along, are some of the hires the rioters from Jan. 6. Let's find out.



Funny you mention Jan 6.  The case of Babbit being shot came down to the officer that shot her was justified because he felt threatened after three officers stood down from blocking Babbit and were standing to the side.

The ICE incident.  Good decided to interfere with law enforcement.  Choose to go toe to toe with federal agents because she turned her car into a road block.  Where Good ignored lawful commands.  Where Good endangered the agent physically interacting with her door when she started moving the car.  Good endangered the agents surrounding her car when she accelerated with malice and intent.
(01-14-2026, 09:49 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Hello.

I already quoted what she said with the context of your actual statement.


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I guess I’m missing your point.
(01-14-2026, 09:56 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I guess I’m missing your point.


Weaponizing a car against agents is “an act of domestic terrorism”.

Your post.


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You didn’t provide actual context, why.
"Full List of ICE Shootings Since Donald Trump Took Office"

"Ontario, California (October 30, 2025)In October, an immigration officer shot at a U.S. citizen named Carlos Jimenez in Ontario, California. His lawyer told ABC News he was heading to his job at a local food bank when agents’ vehicles were blocking traffic. He asked them to “wrap this up” and was met with aggression. DHS said the man tried to maneuver his vehicle to get around them and was shot through the back window, his lawyer said.

Federal prosecutors, however, said the officer shot in self-defense after a “verbal altercation” and that the driver “pulled forward, turned his wheels and accelerated backward, causing the officer to fear he would hit him and another car," according to the complaint reported by ABC.

Phoenix, Arizona (October 29, 2025)A day earlier, a man was shot at by an ICE officer during a traffic stop near Phoenix. During the stop, the driver began to drive away, and an officer fired after fearing for his life, DHS told news outlet Arizona’s Family.

Los Angeles, California (October 21, 2025)Shots were also fired at a traffic stop in Los Angeles in October. An undocumented immigrant was accused of trying to evade arrest by using his car to hit a law enforcement vehicle, ABC News reported. An ICE agent then fired “defensive shots” that hit the man in his elbow. Both were taken to the hospital."

Full List of ICE Shootings Since Donald Trump Took Office - Newsweek

Too many shootings/killings by ICE involve incidents with cars. These ICE goons have no training as to how to keep themselves safe and away from vehicles or any understanding of how people may react out of fear.

Sad and tragic to say the least.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-14-2026, 10:01 AM)quintessentone Wrote: "Ontario, California (October 30, 2025)In October, an immigration officer shot at a U.S. citizen named Carlos Jimenez in Ontario, California.


This guy..
Quote:Federal agents shot a man in Ontario on Thursday morning after the driver allegedly reversed toward them during a traffic stop, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said federal agents were conducting a traffic stop on the 4900 block of Vineyard Avenue around 6:30 a.m. when an unknown individual pulled in front of them. 
Agents ordered the driver to leave, but DHS claims they instead reversed toward the agents without stopping. “An ICE officer, fearing for his life, fired defensive shots at the vehicle. The subject fled the scene and abandoned his vehicle,” McLaughlin said.

https://www.kvcrnews.org/local-news/2025...in-ontario

How about using full context.  Not cherry picking.  You don’t mess with enforcement at a traffic stop.  If you need to tell them something, call dispatch and they can get ahold of the federal agents.
(01-14-2026, 09:26 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well now the tables will be turned on ICE and Trump's quest to Make America White Again, this time when ICE steps out of line with excessive violence they will be arrested.



How many ICE agents have been convicted of excessive violence? 

Sure hope you aren't the one deciding what that threshold is, I'm sure you'd have them arrested to looking at you the wrong way.
(01-14-2026, 10:01 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Sad and tragic to say the least.


What a shame. 

What's sad and tragic is you thinking we give a shit.

Round up all illegals and deport them.

If they want to try to come back through the proper channels, thats fine.



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