New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[Vermilion]

Why hasn’t the “wife” come forward with her cellphone TikTok video?

Logic says….

Her video shows exactly what all the other videos show: Good fucked around and found out.

Her video can, and will, be used against her when they indict her.

She is exercising her rights to not incriminate herself even more than she already has.
“Drive baby drive!”

[UltraBudgie]

I'm not sure why following ICE around blowing whistles and honking horns is not considered interfering with law enforcement.

Try that with your local cops and see what happens, for example.

Recognized official community law enforcement already exists all over the USA.

ICE only exist to enforce very specific, and legally contested, laws.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) did not exist before 2002. They are part of US Homeland Security, which itself was formed as a response to 911 attacks - to counter a threat that never recurred (like a Reichstag fire?).

Under Trump's 'One Big Beautiful Bill Act of 2025', ICE became the largest and most well-funded Federal law enforcement agency in U.S. history. Bigger than the FBI, and bigger than Customs and Border Control (whom they are not accountable to).

As part of their new storm-trooper powers, ICE have transitioned to being a highly militarized force wearing armour, masked for anonymity, carrying automatic rifles, and in heavily armoured trucks, all of which they have consistently deployed inappropriately to situations in quiet neighbourhoods.

In these situations ICE has been, threatening, injuring and even killing law abiding citizens including children, the elderly, the disabled, the unarmed, and, yes, some protestors (who have a right to protest), while making very few actual arrests of their pre-designated targets.

One might point that the 2nd Amendment suggests (rather foolishly, in my opinion) that citizens should take up arms against just this very thing (The 2nd Amendment is a stupid and dangerous rule that can only lead to loss of life, on both sides, and in the light of history, armed rebellion has no guarantee of success and usually just swaps one tyrannical leadership for another tyrannical leadership). The US Constitution promotes what is now called domestic terrorism. How wonderful and perfect is the US system!

TL;DR (Too Leftist; Didn't Read)

So it is interfering with law enforcement?

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Why would you want them here?

Because I dont want to drink Guyanan Kool-Aid. 

Plus, you saw CA in the 80s and 90s. You cant judge CA today by 30 to 40 years ago. 

I wouldn't have ANY OF my left-leaning argument if I saw Los Angeles or San Diego in 1991.  In SD I would see a still very republican-run city with 167 murders and a crack epidemic. And i would see that continue until CA gun control laws combined with social reform sent violent crime into a prolonged progressive decline.

And you know southern California police were terrible when even middle class Orange County boys wrote a vulgar song about them.

But then April, 1992 changed the interaction of city officials and impoverished neighborhoods forever.  And it still took 3 decades.  

And since you just keep repeating yourself about the 20 million person problem, this isn't really going anywhere worth my time. Unless i like talking to myself. Which i oblivious do to some extent. 

Because I dont believe you and think you have a false premise which allows you to make unsound causal connections. 

I think propoganda and scapegoating was effective and sold you a straight line to a solution for a problem a cold-calling salesmen convinced you was urgent to act on.

And me trying to convince you is like the irresistible force meeting the immovable object.

So agree to live in different realities?

[putnam6]

TL;DR (Too Leftist; Didn't Read)

So it is interfering with law enforcement?

I'm beginning to think AI wrote the script for OBAA 2....

[argentus]

The night of the long knives was Hitlers consolidation of power, where he, Goering and Himmler ordered the killing of most of the leadership of the SA (Brownshirts) because Hitler feared that his thuggish armed force had realized their power and were going to oust him. Perhaps they were. Or, perhaps paranoid and very picked-on (more than any leader in living memory, but also, strangely, universally loved?), narcissistic, megalomaniac leaders just do that sort of thing?

I mean, after giving ICE all that military power, in country, what leader wouldn't begin to fear what they might achieve all on their own?

I mean, once you have destroyed the normal democratic electoral process, and then declare that you must retain leadership to 'save the Fatherland USA' from all these "unpatriotic" threats, then the only way for succession of leadership is real military coup - one with a lot of bloodshed, especially of the 'old guys' (not just the normal end of term handover).

And we are already seeing how Trump has liberated the Sudeten Land Venezuela, at his, and his alone, mighty word.

And how he has already tried to force his supreme political position in his Beer Hall Putsch on January 6.

And how he must acquire Poland Greenland for new Leibensraum resources and strategic locations to secure the Fatherland USA's future.

And you have to consider his "economic miracle", that made everything so "great", like it is now.

Surely he must remain as Reichsführer, Anointed Messiah, rightful God-Emperor, Red Caesar President for ever?

“Who is as great as the beast?” they exclaimed. “Who is able to fight against him?” - Revelation 13:4b.

Are you aware of Godwin's Law? It basically states that most internet "debates" will eventually spiral down into references to Hitler.    It infers that the first to cast the Hitler card has lost.   I don't have a horse in this particular race, however I have my own opinion about it.    I like to share Godwin's Law whenever I see it, because it distills down to a basic Strawman Logical Fallacy, which seems to be the antithesis to a healthy discussion/debate.  I do love me a balanced debate/discussion.

[UltraBudgie]

I like to share Godwin's Law whenever I see it

Its use is a way to Hollow out debate, with no Cost.

[KrustyKrab]

And since you just keep repeating yourself about the 20 million person problem, this isn't really going anywhere worth my time. Unless i like talking to myself. Which i oblivious do to some extent. 

Because I dont believe you and think you have a false premise which allows you to make unsound causal connections. 

Maybe because it’s bares repeating.  It’s the elephant in the room that you or anyone else on the left cares to admit because it exposes your hypocrisy and kills your narrative.   That’s the reality that you’re ignoring.   Gotta give credit where credit is due, right?   Why can’t any of you admit that if Biden had enforced our immigration laws that none of this would probably be happening to the degree it is.  

Without all the leftist BS rhetoric….What did I say that you don’t believe? 

Have you forgotten that Obama deported 3million illegals making him the president with the highest number of deportations in US history?  

He even built the “cages” y’all were whining about when Trump was in office.   

The hypocrisy is a bit much.

[putnam6]

Maybe because it’s bares repeating.  It’s the elephant in the room that you or anyone else on the left cares to admit because it exposes your hypocrisy and kills your narrative.   That’s the reality that you’re ignoring.   Gotta give credit where credit is due, right?   Why can’t any of you admit that if Biden had enforced our immigration laws that none of this would probably be happening to the degree it is.  

Without all the leftist BS rhetoric….What did I say that you don’t believe? 

Have you forgotten that Obama deported 3million illegals making him the president with the highest number of deportations in US history?  

He even built the “cages” y’all were whining about when Trump was in office.   

The hypocrisy is a bit much.

[ANNEE]

Are you aware of Godwin's Law? It basically states that most internet "debates" will eventually spiral down into references to Hitler.    It infers that the first to cast the Hitler card has lost.   

Or — Nazi — Communist — etc.  Who throws those in the mix almost daily. 

Behavior of ICE compared to Hitler’s henchmen is a valid comparison.

Or at least what they could become.

[argentus]

Or — Nazi — Communist — etc.  Who throws those in the mix almost daily. 

Behavior of ICE compared to Hitler’s henchmen is a valid comparison.

Will all due respect, Annee, it truly bites, regardless of which "side" throws it.