New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[Good Bacteria]

Another crisis averted with in your face truth. Anything they do now is on them. No one is coming out to counter protest their stupidity.

Life is hard. Its even harder when your an abysmal sycophant.

The agent correctly called her a fkn bitch. I wouldn't be amused either if anyone tried to run me over.

[chr0naut]

She
Broke
The
Law

Jeeezus!

Allegedly.

[Knows]

Their lashing out because the latest video blows their narrative up is hilarious.

I remember them pushing hard for all the cops to start wearing body cameras.
It ended up being the ultimate self own because they can’t get away with the shit they used to. LoL

His cam shows  she thought she was above the law and ran into him. Trying to escape after they told her to stop with a drawn gun. 
The politician can try and gaslight. By saying he had a hop in his step, and was still holding his phone. The left is trying to gaslight any incident that comes up to stop the deportations of their criminal allies.

[Vermilion]

His cam shows  she thought she was above the law and ran into him. Trying to escape after they told her to stop with a drawn gun. 
The politician can try and gaslight. By saying he had a hop in his step, and was still holding his phone. The left is trying to gaslight any incident that comes up to stop the deportations of their criminal allies.

What’s ironic is we can get them out of our country easily, without any arrests or having to pop a cap in someone’s ass.

Stop giving them free shit.
Debank them.
They’ll leave quicker than they came in.

[Knows]

What’s ironic is we can get them out of our country easily, without any arrests or having to pop a cap in someone’s ass.

Stop giving them free shit.
Debank them.
They’ll leave quicker than they came in.

Easier said then done with the leftists lawyers and politicians dragging their feet. 
I would give that ICE agent another task though. He has been injured by another car. And I would have never placed myself in front of that SUV. Maybe he's a little too aggressive for that job. But I don't know how they train them.

[WallFlowerActive]

The officer should not have stood in the path of the car.

The officers told her to get out of the car.

Good made the decision to pull in front of the ICE vehicle to block its path.  She took it upon herself to be a roadblock.  Should ICE have rammed her car?

Good made the decision to impede and interfere with officers carrying out their lawful duties.

The officers got out of their vehicle(s) to surround a person breaking the law.

The officers gave lawful commands that Good ignored.

Good made the decision to accelerate into a group of law enforcement surrounding her vehicle to carry out their duty to restrain her for breaking the law, Good was interfering with law enforcement, and illegally blocking their path.  

This is no different if Good decided to accelerate into a group of civilians.

[putnam6]

What’s ironic is we can get them out of our country easily, without any arrests or having to pop a cap in someone’s ass.

Stop giving them free shit.
Debank them.
They’ll leave quicker than they came in.

Yeah, but how do you convince the overtly supportive, mostly caucasian women to rehabilitate themselves

I didn't see any Somalis there 

But yes, I'm thinking Minnesotans got burned by thier nice, quaint, good nature, and now the Land of 10,000 Lakes is the Land of 10,000 fakes 

So much money has been grifted, it will be a miracle if they recover half the alleged 9 billion

[visitedbythem]

Good made a bad decision. This was evil for Good. Its too bad about Good, but its good that we now have  more video footage so we can come to a conclusion as to if what Good did was bad or good, and did ice iice baby with probable cause or vindictive venomous anger.

PS  We hope the dog is ok.

[WallFlowerActive]

The car's wheels were turned to the right, and the officer was to her left, before she began to move and after the shooting.

Front right tire looks straight on with little turn to it to me..

[EXETER]

I told you before, hitting a cop with your vehicle is against the law in America.

Yes, it generally is.  But it's generally not a capital offense unless it is premeditated. 

As I've watched this debate evolve over the last few days, I've observed that most people are not able to carry more than one thought in mind at the same time.  Especially if the thoughts are conflicting.  So I will just put this out there and let people think about it.  

Much has been made of the fact that the driver of the car had been out in the neighborhood watching the ICE agents and broadcasting their location to others.  OK, that's true.  So what?  Exercising your 1st amendment rights is not illegal.

Much has been made of the fact that her car was parked more or less crossways to the flow of traffic and that was probably illegal.  OK, that's true.  So what?  The remedy for that is a misdemeanor traffic citation, not summary execution.  

When the ICE agents drove up to the car in their pickup truck and approached Renee Good and told her to get out of the car, they were probably acting within their authority as federal Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs), if they intended to maybe question her for impeding a federal law enforcement activity.  However, witnesses on the scene said that she was receiving conflicting orders from ICE agents, with some telling her to leave the scene and some telling her to get out of the car.  Obviously, she couldn't  follow both commands, so she chose to leave.  

Being a US citizen, she was not an authorized target of an ICE enforcement operation, so there is controversy over whether she had the right to leave the scene. On one side of the argument is the fact  that she was a U.S. citizen and a legal observer, not the target of the ICE operation, and not suspected of any serious crime or immigration violation. Some lawyers say an American citizen may lawfully disengage from an officer's command if it is unlawful, unclear, or creates a reasonable fear for personal safety. On the other side of the argument is that Federal officials maintain that she was impeding law enforcement's work and refused commands to stay. In any case, even if she illegally left the scene, the remedy for that is subsequent arrest and arraignment, not summary execution. 

Then we have the encounter with the officer who shot her.  Legal precedent for cases involving use of deadly force requires that individuals employing deadly force have to have an objectively supported reason for using it.  That means that their reason for using it has to be one of the legally valid reasons, and that the objective facts have to support the logic of that reason. Once she had decided to leave, Renee first cranked the wheels of her car to the left and backed up a little bit in order to position herself to turn right and head on down the road in the right hand lane. When she did that, she ended up momentarily pointing the car pretty much directly at the ICE officer while turning her wheels to the right.  At that point, he assessed that she was about to place the car in Drive and start forward and that he was in imminent danger of being run over by the car.  That was a legally defensible assessment, in my opinion. He was only a few feet in front of the car's front end and had only split seconds to act.  All the videos show that she was turning her wheels to the right, but the officer probably had no chance to notice that since he was concentrating on aiming his weapon.  In retrospect, I think that shows that she had no intent to run him over, otherwise she would have steered directly toward him. So it looks like he tried to move to his right to avoid a direct hit from the car while simultaneously firing at the driver.  It looks like the bullet went through the lower left portion of the windshield at an angle that was too low for a kill shot and may have missed the driver entirely.  

If the encounter had ended there, the nation would not be having this conversation, since I think the officer's actions were justifiable up to that point.  But, since her car was turning right, the open driver's side window passed by the officer about 2 or 3 feet to the side, and he took the occasion to double-tap her in the head at point blank range, apparently killing her instantly.  

There are several things wrong with that. First, DHS policy is that deadly force may ONLY be used to protect the life of the officer or an innocent bystander from imminent danger and if no other reasonable alternative is available.  That means that deadly force cannot be used solely for the purpose of preventing escape--there has to be an element of somebody being in imminent danger. Imminent means immediate with no reasonable way to escape.  Furthermore, DHS policy specifically prohibits shooting at or into a moving vehicle without there being any such imminent danger. When officers do consider shooting into a moving vehicle because there is imminent danger to someone, they are supposed to take into account whatever harm to innocent bystanders might be caused by the out-of-control vehicle. Considering that the vehicle was already passing him and driving away, the officer himself was no longer in imminent danger.  So unless the officer can show that he had an objectively true reason to believe that an innocent bystander's life was in imminent danger, I think he was not following DHS policy or the law. 

As I stated above, I think his first shot was justifiable.  I don't see how the next two were. 

And this might affect how this case plays out.  As a general rule, the Supreme Court has ruled that when a federal officer is acting in good faith in performing his/her duties in accordance with federal policy and law, he/she cannot be charged with crimes by state or local authorities for doing that. However, in this case the argument will be that he was not following federal policies and/or laws, and therefore can be charged.  Whenever there is an incident involving use of deadly force by an officer, the DHS is required to conduct an after-action investigation to see whether DHS policy was followed, or not.  It will be interesting to see what they come up with.