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New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good
(01-09-2026, 07:23 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Good decided to block ICE vehicles.  The ICE agents didn’t ram her SUV with her Truck.

The ICE agents got out and gave her lawful orders.  

Good didn’t comply.

Good took off with law agents surrounding her car striking an agent.

Yes, driving into a person that is clearly in front of your vehicle because you chose to accelerate is weaponizing your vehicle obligating the person to defend themselves from harm.

Just more circles, it's not like we are going to agree on the incident. 

Or that our conflicting opinions will change much.  

That's for your laws and courts to decide. 

Let's see what they have to say on the matter.

Ive got to drive now, so probably best not to break our own laws.

Time will tell who is held to account...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(01-09-2026, 07:26 PM)andy06shake Wrote: People getting blown away in their vehicle whilst trying to escape seldom does.

People shouldn't break laws to avoid getting shot.
(01-09-2026, 07:26 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Just Andy is fine putnam6. 

What i think is beside the point.

As to what happens next, let's just wait and see. 

But it doesn't look good, i think that's a given.

People getting blown away in their vehicle whilst trying to escape seldom does.

He shot through the front windshield Andy....in the videos Ive watched, he doesn't draw his weapon till she hits the gas, her tires spin.

I can post, but they are easily found besides, as you've stated your mind is closed to other possibilities
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(01-09-2026, 07:31 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Just more circles, it's not like we are going to agree on the incident. 

Or that our conflicting opinions will change much.  

That's for your laws and courts to decide. 

Let's see what they have to say on the matter.

Ive got to drive now, so probably best not to break our own laws.

Time will tell who is held to account...


 
Quote:UK Police Officer Cleared Of Murder After Black Man Shot Dead

https://www.barrons.com/news/uk-police-o...D9cw%3D%3D
 Blake shot Kaba through the front windscreen of an Audi Q8 car, which had been used as a getaway vehicle in a shooting the previous evening.
It had been blocked by other police vehicles when it was identified and the court was told that Kaba tried to ram his way free.
Blake told jurors he opened fire to stop the car, as he feared one of his colleagues could be killed.
 

No.  Certain people keep ignoring case histories and hem hawing about.

You can observe law enforcement.

You can insult law enforcement.

You can’t willingly agitate law enforcement.

You can’t threaten law enforcement.

What really applies here, you can’t block and impede law enforcement to prevent them from carrying out their lawful duties.

You can’t disobey lawful orders given by law enforcement.

You can’t drive your car into a group of people giving lawful orders while you where in the act of impeding their lawful travel and trying to interfere with their lawful duties.

You can’t weaponize your vehicle striking an agent carrying out their lawful duties.

Once Good willfully used her car as a roadblock to impede ICE vehicles, Good put herself in jeopardy.
(01-09-2026, 03:40 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yeah, I'm thick.

Not at all used to assessing video evidence. As a prosecutor.


So jog on with your blind obedience to whatever.


You assess video evidence as well as other evidence as a prosecutor? Then why do you get everything wrong so often? Talk about pompous arrogance in a prosecutor. Holy Sh^t!  This plus adding into most every post that "I'm a prosecutor" "So I know I'm right!" 
Prosecutors are paid to get convictions these days, not learn the truth, and to ignore the truth, and don't look for the truth, since their case will fall apart quickly.

Nothing more dangerous to any citizen than an insecure prosecutor desperate to prove themselves to those depositing the paycheck.
Plus one completely taken over by their own politics and inserting it into everything.
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(01-09-2026, 07:37 PM)putnam6 Wrote: He shot through the front windshield Andy....in the videos Ive watched, he doesn't draw his weapon till she hits the gas, her tires spin.

I can post, but they are easily found besides, as you've stated your mind is closed to other possibilities

Ive seen the videos, i don't agree.

And i doubt we will agree as to what they show.

Again busy on my end.

Your laws will determine the man's fate, not our opinions.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(01-09-2026, 03:54 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Irrefutable video evidence from multiple angles and are you in denial?

But she did NOT actually run over the officer. That is clear from all the videos.

Quote:Then you are compromised as a "prosecutor"

How could anyone get a fair case in front of you if you interpret irrefutable video evidence as anything but what it shows?

Ridiculous.

To have actually run over the officer, her wheels would have had to go over a part of the officers body. That was not shown in the videos.

In Good's shooting, while it is plausible that the car struck the officer, it didn't stop the officer from aiming and shooting.

Nor was there sufficient time for the officer to determine if the driver actually intended to impact the officer.

There have been allegations that one officer told her to move the car out of the way, and another was telling her to stop.

There was snow on the ground and an incline of the road under the car's wheels, leading to questions of traction. The wheels may have been turned away from the officer, but the car may have slipped straight forwards, rather than turning away from the driver.

The front wheels were definitely angled away from the officer in her path, both prior to, and after the shooting. It is unlikely that the driver turned the steering wheel appreciably after being fatally shot. This is underlined by the path of the car followed after the shooting.

The camera bouncing up to point at the face of the officer could have coincided with the recoil from the shot, rather than from them being struck by the car. I can't see the officer standing in a properly braced position.
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(01-09-2026, 07:40 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote:  

No.  Certain people keep ignoring case histories and hem hawing about.

You can observe law enforcement.

You can insult law enforcement.

You can’t willingly agitate law enforcement.

You can’t threaten law enforcement.

What really applies here, you can’t block and impede law enforcement to prevent them from carrying out their lawful duties.

You can’t disobey lawful orders given by law enforcement.

You can’t drive your car into a group of people giving lawful orders while you where in the act of impeding their lawful travel and trying to interfere with their lawful duties.

You can’t weaponize your vehicle striking an agent carrying out their lawful duties.

Once Good willfully used her car as a roadblock to impede ICE vehicles, Good put herself in jeopardy.

Tell it to the judge or jury, im sure he will have to at some point....

Now on that note im apt to be late.

Bye'bye.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
FAFO

I know the evil communist leftists will never apologize for what they've said over the past two days.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(01-09-2026, 04:10 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: There an are already many cases from various states that has set a precedent that vehicles can be weaponized against law enforcement on foot and officers have a right to defend themselves.  

When Good pulled up to interfere with the agents, Good put herself in a bad situation.

Good was there before the agents pulled up.

The first ICE car veered around her, and the second pulled up and its two officers got out.
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