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AlroyFarms · 08-16-2025, 02:55 PM

(08-16-2025, 02:42 PM)argentus Wrote: they/them/we as posed toward a single person are, well, kind of silly, and really clunky conversationally.

Preaching to the choir!

I wonder how they handle things like Spanish? When referring to a group it's always in the masculine for example. And English does this too when addressing a group tends to be like "Hey guys get back to work!"

Oldcarpy2 · 08-16-2025, 02:57 PM

(08-15-2025, 12:57 PM)ArMaP Wrote: To me they look like they could be interpreted in different ways, with "homeless" being someone without a home while "unhoused" sounds more like someone that has a house but is not there.
Besides the difference between "home" and "house", as one can live in a house that is not a home.

"Home challenged", anyone?

**ArMaP** · 08-16-2025, 03:09 PM

(08-16-2025, 02:42 PM)argentus Wrote: An aside: I think some of the nonbinary pronouns -- they/them/we as posed toward a single person are, well, kind of silly, and really clunky conversationally.

In Portuguese is worse, because Portuguese doesn't have non gender specific pronouns (we always say "eles" or "elas" for "they", for example), so they had to invent some.

How is that going to help conversation?

UltraBudgie · 08-16-2025, 03:31 PM

(08-16-2025, 02:27 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: What's up, man?...Thanks a lot, man. Dave's not here, man. (Or is he...? muahaha)

I accidentally use it when addressing women at times and it hasn't been an issue. I've accidentally used it with some trans people and got the triggered looks but no one has asked me to change my language yet. If/ when it happens I'll just have to say 'Sorry I'm just a hippy stoner and this is the way I talk casually sometimes. Your choice or not to be offended by that because I wasn't misgendering.'

I called some guy "dude" once, and it really hit him wrong. He snapped "don't call me dude!" I don't know why. It wasn't a gender thing. I still have no idea what he found offensive about it. But okay, sure no problem dude man fellow-human.

AlroyFarms · This post was last modified: 08-16-2025, 03:37 PM by AlroyFarms.

(08-16-2025, 03:31 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I called some guy "dude" once, and it really hit him wrong. He snapped "don't call me dude!" I don't know why. It wasn't a gender thing. I still have no idea what he found offensive about it. But okay, sure no problem dude man fellow-human.

I'm not your buddy, pal!

I'm not your pal, guy!

I'm not your guy, friend!

I'm not your friend, buddy!

DontTreadOnMe · This post was last modified: 08-16-2025, 03:47 PM by DontTreadOnMe.

(08-16-2025, 11:41 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Nah, I mean from @argentus, because he seems to have an opinion on it, and I'm actually interested.

Actually, rather than disrupting a thread, it would be better to contact the staff---or any other member---directly via DMs.
Especially as it may have nothing to do with the thread, as in this case.

This is a mod note, rather than a post to the topic of this thread.
So, as always...
Do NOT reply to this message.

UltraBudgie · This post was last modified: 08-16-2025, 03:53 PM by UltraBudgie.

(08-16-2025, 03:37 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: I'm not your buddy, pal!

I'm not your pal, guy!

I'm not your guy, friend!

I'm not your friend, buddy!

there was clearly some cultural matrix going on there that i wasn't aware of
Smile

maybe it was a cowboy thing? or the big lebowski? i really still wonder

covent · 08-16-2025, 04:40 PM

(08-16-2025, 12:36 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: This was specifically a poetry class,

OMG - issue now ultra magnified!

Teacher ever heard of "poetic license"?

Poetry means writing whatever you want, there is even a sub-genre, nonsense, allows poet to weave any word or idea around itself and out the in door.

In your shoes, I would have felt mighty aggrieved. If tasked with writing another poem, I would probably have snarked up, gone on the offensive and got personal. But then that was 70's England when we were, without any fear of repercussion and for a very small window in time, allowed to think for ourselves.

UltraBudgie · 08-16-2025, 04:44 PM

And there is apparently quite a difference between a "hobo", a "tramp", and a "bum". Hobos I believe are itinerant by choice. It's not a derogatory word, except to perhaps people who wish there were no valid homeless lifestyle at all. Um, unhoused lifestyle. Um, rough-sleeping?

AlroyFarms · 08-16-2025, 06:59 PM

(08-16-2025, 04:44 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: And there is apparently quite a difference between a "hobo", a "tramp", and a "bum". Hobos I believe are itinerant by choice. It's not a derogatory word, except to perhaps people who wish there were no valid homeless lifestyle at all. Um, unhoused lifestyle. Um, rough-sleeping?

To me, it's like telling me I should've wrote about a Chevy instead of a Ford.

I'm a Ford guy not sorry.