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#81
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

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#82
(03-05-2025, 07:10 AM)quintessentone Wrote: [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBx-hHf4BE]

One of my Dad's favorite songs and he was a fan of the movie Billy Jack too. He put an old Wurlitzer jukebox, which he bought from a closed diner, down in our half-finished basement. It was circa 1971 or 1972 and filled with loads of classic rock and pop songs it was the Coven version but it was played all the time

know it word for word...


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#83
(03-05-2025, 08:13 AM)putnam6 Wrote: One of my Dad's favorite songs and he was a fan of the movie Billy Jack too. He put an old Wurlitzer jukebox, which he bought from a closed diner, down in our half-finished basement. It was circa 1971 or 1972 and filled with loads of classic rock and pop songs it was the Coven version but it was played all the time

know it word for word...


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One of the songs I listened to as a young person that clued me in to how war is, in the end, absolutely meaningless, in addition to hearing a Vietnam vet's take on it.
 
Quote:Set in the late 1960s, Billy Jack is a half-white, half-Indian ex-Green Beret Vietnam vet-turned-pacifist, and Hapkido expert (a combination of Tae Kwon Do and Aikido) who having gotten in touch with his Native American roots returns from the war to take up residence on a reservation outside a conservative Arizona town ...

The American Film Institute recognized Billy Jack as a 'hero', within the narrow criteria of hero vs. villain, IMO, but I was taken aback as to the absolute vicious violence that a supposed pacifist can muster up.
Quote:Line by Line Breakdown:
  • "They marched up to the mountain, and into the valley below": The Valley People begin their march towards the Mountain People's territory.
  • "And the mountain people wondered, why they came to their door": The peaceful Mountain People are confused about the intentions of the invading army.
  • "They demanded the treasure, that lay deep in the mountain's heart": The Valley People demand the treasure that they believe is hidden within the Mountain People's land.
  • "And the mountain people answered, we'll share it with you, if you'll only start": The Mountain People offer to share their treasure peacefully.
  • "But the valley people answered, with fire and sword in their hand": The Valley People reject the offer and resort to violence.
  • "And they killed the mountain people, so they won their just reward": The Valley People massacre the Mountain People, believing they have won due to their conquest.
  • "Now they stood beside the treasure, on the mountain, darkened red": The Valley People stand on the mountain where the Mountain People were killed, now stained with blood.
  • "Turned the stone and looked beneath it, 'Peace on earth' was all it said": When they finally find the "treasure," it is a simple message of peace, revealing the senselessness of the violence.
  • "Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend": The song criticizes the justification of violence and immoral actions in the name of power or greed.
  • "Do it in the name of heaven, You can justify it in the end": This line further emphasizes the hypocrisy of using religion to excuse violent acts.
  • "There won't be any trumpets blowing, Come the judgement day": The song suggests that there will be no grand reward for those who commit such atrocities.
  • "On the bloody morning after, One tin soldier rides away": This final line represents the lone, solitary figure who embodies the emptiness and futility of war, symbolized by the "tin soldier". 
     Overall, the song uses the allegory of the "tin soldier" to critique the destructive nature of war and the hypocrisy of justifying violence in the name of higher ideals.
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

Plato's Chariot Allegory
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#84
(03-05-2025, 08:44 AM)quintessentone Wrote: One of the songs I listened to as a young person that clued me in to how war is, in the end, absolutely meaningless, in addition to hearing a Vietnam vet's take on it.
 

The American Film Institute recognized Billy Jack as a 'hero', within the narrow criteria of hero vs. villain, IMO, but I was taken aback as to the absolute vicious violence that a supposed pacifist can muster up.

Yeah, but it was righteous, and just violence and viciousness was needed to drive the point home.

We went and saw it in the theaters when it first came out, and my Mom had the same concerns. 

Growing up we lived next door to a younger couple with a baby Tom and Debbie and the Husband got drafted. 1-2 years later he was about to go on leave and his jeep hit a mine and he lost his left arm.

My Dad hired him once he recovered and he worked for Dad for a while, Dad said he was the happiest one-armed person he had ever seen. We listened to quite a bit of his stories of Vietnam and what a sham it was. 

For a lower-class white family in the South we were more liberal than most, probably because of neighbors like Tom
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....                                                                                                                   
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#85
(03-05-2025, 09:20 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, but it was righteous, and just violence and viciousness was needed to drive the point home.

We went and saw it in the theaters when it first came out, and my Mom had the same concerns. 

Growing up we lived next door to a younger couple with a baby Tom and Debbie and the Husband got drafted. 1-2 years later he was about to go on leave and his jeep hit a mine and he lost his left arm.

My Dad hired him once he recovered and he worked for Dad for a while, Dad said he was the happiest one-armed person he had ever seen. We listened to quite a bit of his stories of Vietnam and what a sham it was. 

For a lower-class white family in the South we were more liberal than most, probably because of neighbors like Tom

My Vietnam vet friend had PTSD and it was sad and tragic to watch as there really wasn't any mental health treatment that worked. War..what is it good for?



Any way, enjoy the music, I have to go see my medical care provider to see what's what.
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

Plato's Chariot Allegory
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#86
(03-05-2025, 09:27 AM)quintessentone Wrote: My Vietnam vet friend had PTSD and it was sad and tragic to watch as there really wasn't any mental health treatment that worked. War..what is it good for?

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk]

Any way, enjoy the music, I have to go see my medical care provider to see what's what.

Damn, not getting any better?  The flu is rampant here, hope you are on the mend soon...

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(03-05-2025, 10:01 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Damn, not getting any better?  The flu is rampant here, hope you are on the mend soon...

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I think I'm getting better, but I got an antibiotic prescription and put it on hold, just in case it turns around. Ah, drugs, thank God we got 'em or I'd be a gonner. I think I will fill that prescription because it's a type of antibiotic that we can use on our cats, it's actually the same thing vets use, and there is a new stray cat hanging around so I may need to give it a 3 day's dose, just for good measure.

While shopping yesterday a couple cashiers were coughing, so I asked them if they are sick, they told me they are fighting something off and so are some of their friends. It may be just the time of the season where virus/bacteria flourish, I guess. Let's not worry, until we have to.



Bob Dylan explanation of the meaning of this song;
Quote:Then they do a big exposition based on this utter rubbish explanation. Dylan claims it’s nonsense. Because it’s about drugs. All that pretentious “earth father” Bullshit, is bullshit.

Most songs from the '60s early '70s are about freedom, love, or drugs. (Edit to add: and of course 'sex' not the same as love)
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

Plato's Chariot Allegory
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(03-06-2025, 10:05 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I think I'm getting better, but I got an antibiotic prescription and put it on hold, just in case it turns around. Ah, drugs, thank God we got 'em or I'd be a gonner.

While shopping yesterday a couple cashiers were coughing, so I asked them if they are sick, they told me they are fighting something off and so are some of their friends. It may be just the time of the season where virus/bacteria flourish, I guess. Let's not worry, until we have to.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyZsZqKrXNc]

Bob Dylan explanation of the meaning of this song;

Most songs from the '60s early '70s are about freedom, love, or drugs.

Good to hear...

I believe that some home remedies can lessen or prevent some infections, Ive ended tooth infections with honey garlic, oregano, onions, and turmeric but I reek of northern Italy 

still, there are times when you need the real stuff... 

As for music...  

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#89
Thanks Putnam, one of my fav quotes (...the beat goes on...) for everything that never changes:
Quote:There's a consensus that the title means the fact that time keeps marching forward, no matter what fads come and go. The beat itself could be a heartbeat or a musical beat.

As for oregano, supposedly the most effective strain comes from the wild plants that grow in Greece.
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

Plato's Chariot Allegory
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#90
(03-06-2025, 10:05 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I think I'm getting better, but I got an antibiotic prescription and put it on hold, just in case it turns around. Ah, drugs, thank God we got 'em or I'd be a gonner. I think I will fill that prescription because it's a type of antibiotic that we can use on our cats, it's actually the same thing vets use, and there is a new stray cat hanging around so I may need to give it a 3 day's dose, just for good measure.

While shopping yesterday a couple cashiers were coughing, so I asked them if they are sick, they told me they are fighting something off and so are some of their friends. It may be just the time of the season where virus/bacteria flourish, I guess. Let's not worry, until we have to.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyZsZqKrXNc]

Bob Dylan explanation of the meaning of this song;

Most songs from the '60s early '70s are about freedom, love, or drugs. (Edit to add: and of course 'sex' not the same as love)


Time of the season, you say?

The Zombies:

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