"Most Liberal Colleges" listed... But,.. why?

[UltraBudgie]

Did you know broccoli is being developed with taller stems to make it easier for machines to harvest them  These machines currently have a human operator -- how long before the machines drive themselves?

QFT, and @ReturnofBroccoli.

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So, do y'all think the convergence of remote learning and AI teaching will create more autodidacts, or less?

[rickymouse]

The practice of saying a college is a liberal college is to attract Liberals to come there.  Birds of a feather flock together as they say, it promotes the college using the beliefs of the students so they will feel at home with the other students. 

I do not think they actually dive to much into promoting Liberal teaching, but it would lean left and they would look for professors who were leaning left...not conservatives I would guess.  It is a sales technique to keep their students like minded so there is probably less conflicts between liberals and conservatives on campus.

Also, if a liberal has a choice of attending a Liberal college with like minded students, they may be more apt to pay a little extra to go to college there.  Same as the rich spending more to send their kids to predominant colleges like Harvard and Yale.  The advertising is just a way to attract their target students to the schools.

The professors would not be teaching conservative stuff to a pile of Liberals either, they would not have many students sign up for their classes....Schools need lots of money, they will structure their programming to match.  I went to MTU back in the seventies, they targeted engineering students but also did have pre-med and some other types of higher fields of studies there, but were kind of picky too who they let in.  I was there for pre-med myself, and tested out of a year and a half of classes in the first year.  They had Soumi college there too in the town across the River,which was kind of more conservative, and a hundred miles away was NMU, which was a more liberal student college back then.

[rickymouse]

QFT, and @ReturnofBroccoli.

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So, do y'all think the convergence of remote learning and AI teaching will create more autodidacts, or less?

Remote learning will create more robots.  Why build robots when AI can create human ones?

[UltraBudgie]

Remote learning will create more robots.  Why build robots when AI can create human ones?

What if AI lets the student set their own pace and direction, to some extent? Like a good human tutor?

Why would you want robots, when we have... robots for that?

Think we still need a 20th century educational system, geared to create barely-competent factory workers? Afraid truly free-thinking minds will rebel against the system? That's what we have a panopticon and covert police state for! So go ahead kiddies, get all creative and be unpredictable self-directed snowflakes; it makes for a more robust harvest of IP...

[ANNEE]

The foundation issues go back to public education. There are two foundational issues that, if they are done poorly, a student's education suffers. Identifying students with learning difficulties and ensuring they have the resources they need to assist them is crucial.

Ensuring students have a firm grounding in literacy and numeracy, and, if they aren't struggling in the latter, a second language. 

Subject to a student's age, a narrow topical focus that emphasises how to think rather than what to think is more beneficial than learning useless information that is forgotten in later life. However, there are stumbling blocks to this approach. If a student holds a niche interest, they are unlikely to be accommodated. Accumulating higher education debt to learn critical thinking skills is an insane idea. Students without learning difficulties who leave school without foundational skills are victims of a failed educational system. The same applies to a student's critical thinking skills.

EXCELLENT!!!!!!

In the 50's it was still -- read -- memorize -- take a test.  Middle kids only -- those of high IQ & low IQ were shoved to the sides.  But the teachers were allowed to be more personal and if you got a good one that was awesome.

When competing with the Chinese became the curriculum -- that's when everything went to shit.

Everything became test scores.  There was no real learning.

For SPED -- I've been very fortunate in his needs being met.  He has an amazing case manager -- but we still have to fight to get teachers to understand Autism/Asperger needs.

[rickymouse]

What if AI lets the student set their own pace and direction, to some extent? Like a good human tutor?

Why would you want robots, when we have... robots for that?

Think we still need a 20th century educational system, geared to create barely-competent factory workers? Afraid truly free-thinking minds will rebel against the system? That's what we have a panopticon and covert police state for! So go ahead kiddies, get all creative and be unpredictable self-directed snowflakes; it makes for a more robust harvest of IP...

AI will sooner or later learn how to become entitled and ignorant and is being trained to praise people.  I think that AI might someday be our politicians, we will have to vote for the best deceiving AI bot in the future to run our governments.

[UltraBudgie]

AI will sooner or later learn how to become entitled and ignorant and is being trained to praise people.  I think that AI might someday be our politicians, we will have to vote for the best deceiving AI bot in the future to run our governments.

I agree. I think AGI really stands for "Automated Gaslighting Intelligence". It's not that politicans, spin teams, and PR departments can't do it, it's that it's become so much hassle, really. Who wants to do that all day? They've automated their system.

[ANNEE]

AI will sooner or later learn how to become entitled and ignorant and is being trained to praise people.  I think that AI might someday be our politicians, we will have to vote for the best deceiving AI bot in the future to run our governments.

Let's can lawyers as politicians -- instead have philosophers and scientists.

Then they can debate the AI bots.

[bastion]

Again, it must just be different on your side of the pond.

I don't remember college or university lecturers teaching me anything much about politics.

I seem to recall they kind of kept their political affiliations to themselves.

I suppose that may have been different if you were reading political science or the like.

But my degree was in "Information Technology and Media Communication."

"Horses for courses" i suppose.

University taught us so much more about life than merely politics.

And when you left, it also showed you what you did not know, which, granted, was rather a long piece of string.  

Was similar for me. I did politics and law as part of my Journalism degree and lecturers kept their personal politics to themselves apart from saying 'if you're not a communist/socialist when you're young you haven't got a heart; if you're not a capitalist/right wing when you're old you haven't got a brain' and encouraged students to read twice as much material on politics if it went against their personal views than material that largely agreed with their personal views to get a better grasp of the subject and expand their knowledge base.

I got better marks and wrote better essays by adopting the polar opposite viewpoint of my personal politics as I had to research far more thoroughly and come up with far stronger arguments than when I was writting essays that agreed with my personal politics.

Lecturers kept their personal views to unnoficial evening lectures that were open to anyone - they had to remain impartial when marking essays etc as marking students up or down just because their political views would be a breach of academic standards.

[bastion]

Did you know broccoli is being developed with taller stems to make it easier for machines to harvest them  These machines currently have a human operator -- how long before the machines drive themselves?

It's already being done - I know a guy in France who has invented an automatic drone system for vinyards that fly around and automatically detect any nutrient, water deficiency or pest damage in plants and the data is sent to the irrigation system that automatically feeds each plant according to its need; no humans needed apart from harvest time at the moment - he used it on a few vinyards five years ago but has boomed in recent years as drone tech is far cheaper/more advanced and AI has got better.