"Most Liberal Colleges" listed... But,.. why?

[ANNEE]

Would we ascribe to the notion that a "liberal" college is more apt to provide a better education somehow?

Actually -- I think it solely depends on the teacher -- Liberal or Conservative.

Some are good -- some are boring and horrible.

[ANNEE]

I mean, why "liberal" as a factor ... if you are there to learn a profession?

As a "bragging" point it appears to have unstated value...

It's no different for conservative schools though... why does your staffs political leanings matter?  Students don't incur life-altering debt to become an ideological mouthpiece as a profession ... well I suppose some do.

As we learn more about what we've been missing by creating a social environment that automatically devalues the disabled... we are getting a bit more real... but not enough... I think.

From a SPED point of view -- I'd probably prefer a teacher from a Liberal thinking college.  I think they'd be more accommodating and have more insight to the needs of the student.

We have one teacher now that is SPED on paper -- but just sits at his desk showing no interest in the needs of the individual students.  My kid has been taught to ask for help if he gets confused.  He asked for help and this teacher told him he didn't need any help because the subject was easy.

If there's reason for strictly academic than a conservative school might be a better choice.

Liberal more human.
Conservative more robot.

My personal choice for purely education would be conservative.

But that's just me.

[BeTheGoddess]

Hasn't it always been prestige what fraternity or sorority you get into?  Who you know -- who you hang with -- has always been a thing.

"Different Packaging"

The world has changed.  Like I've said -- I was a child of the 50's -- there was still a gender divide -- men worked -- women stayed home and raised the kids (mostly).  I've been through many social changes.

I remember when teachers actually taught -- then we had to compete with the Chinese -- everything became about test scores.  Thinkers aren't always good at taking tests.

Personally -- I'm very practical although it took me a long time to get here.  Love does not make the world go around -- money does.  A high end education helps.  Which few that are not children of millionaires can afford.

But I was raised in metaphysics (before it was a thing).  My mom used Shakespeare quotes for discipline. Grew up in the Hippie era.  So, I see many sides.  And I was never hampered by extreme religion.

Social has been very important for development in the era we are looking back at.  I think that's changing as we become more isolated.  Will we even need "brick and mortar" schools?

I've got a high functioning Asperger's Autistic graduating (hopefully) high school this coming year.  He has Dyscalculia -- so no robotics for him.  What do I do?

We need it all. Red-brick, sandstone and mortar (boards).

its the class system that locks people out of higher education, which means wealthy idiots still get the best jobs, free access to higher education allows upward mobility and a populact that is better informed.

[ANNEE]

We need it all. Red-brick, sandstone and mortar (boards).

its the class system that locks people out of higher education, which means wealthy idiots still get the best jobs, free access to higher education allows upward mobility and a populact that is better informed.

Yes, it is.

I fully support free education -- all the way from beginning to end.

By merit -- not money.

[Maxmars]

From a SPED point of view -- I'd probably prefer a teacher from a Liberal thinking college.  I think they'd be more accommodating and have more insight to the needs of the student.

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If there's reason for strictly academic than a conservative school might be a better choice.

Liberal more human.
Conservative more robot.

My personal choice for purely education would be conservative.

But that's just me.

I'm kind of concerned that conservative seems to imply halfheartedness when it concerns human needs.

Frankly some of the coldest and most cruel people I have ever met were largely of the "liberal-self labeling' kind.  But I accepted that those are deficiencies of people not entire groups (unless that's a prerequisite of the group.)

The cruelest by far was not of the expected ilk... not accepting, welcoming, or forgiving... and constant font of vilification and manipulation... although their 'virtue' and 'honor' were the hallmarks of every description of him or her...

I'm sorry that you might exclude many good schools because some others signal 'liberal.'

I agree that a mix of approaches yields better results generally.. there are those who wish to embrace their profession broadly and with understanding, others want to be sharp as a knife in some area... 

It's the schools that are creating "division"...  making it "matter".  Interesting strategy on somebodies part.

[Maxmars]

Yes, it is.

I fully support free education -- all the way from beginning to end.

By merit -- not money.

All things considered it could be...

If we weren't expected to pay for canned prestige and bullshit vanity publications, every manner of social "contrivance" lumped in as a cost... all for a job market incapable of bearing another cookie-cutter useless drone trainee demanding 40% more ... just because.....

But that's not our economic model...

And "merit" is hard to sell... is it 'relative' as the new thinkers seem to project?  Or is it fixed, like a rigid traditionalist conservative might demand?

Thresholds are set, then debated, then changed, and now... after 'not good enough' they are to change again?  I suspect merit is as "real" to this topic as "love."

I know a lot of people who deserve... all I know is that they are not getting an education... because they can barely afford to be housed and eat...  and most of us woke up long ago to the con of 'financing'...

[ANNEE]

Frankly some of the coldest and most cruel people I have ever met were largely of the "liberal-self labeling' kind.  But I accepted that those are deficiencies of people not entire groups (unless that's a prerequisite of the group.)

Always outliers and extremists.

But it is my personal experience that Liberals are more accommodating and less judgmental than conservatives.

In understanding political policies -- I would go to both Dem and Rep meetings -- where I would get explanations of what each item on a ballot actually meant.  You really can't guess at these things.  They are often written with intent to be misleading.

The Reps were much more formal, did a prayer, did the Flag salute, etc before the meeting.  It was just a local meeting and really unnecessary for my taste.

The Dems were just friendly and welcoming.  No pretense.  They did have speakers and were serious about the policies.  And very patient in explaining them to me.

I was a 40+ year Goldwater California Republican -- until they went insane and the only thing that mattered was control.

[xpert11]

The main issue is they tend to have a singular focus that they excel at.  Do they really need a "rounded" education?

Are Liberal schools better adapted to accommodate single focus learners?

The foundation issues go back to public education. There are two foundational issues that, if they are done poorly, a student's education suffers. Identifying students with learning difficulties and ensuring they have the resources they need to assist them is crucial.

Ensuring students have a firm grounding in literacy and numeracy, and, if they aren't struggling in the latter, a second language. 

Subject to a student's age, a narrow topical focus that emphasises how to think rather than what to think is more beneficial than learning useless information that is forgotten in later life. However, there are stumbling blocks to this approach. If a student holds a niche interest, they are unlikely to be accommodated. Accumulating higher education debt to learn critical thinking skills is an insane idea. Students without learning difficulties who leave school without foundational skills are victims of a failed educational system. The same applies to a student's critical thinking skills.

[ANNEE]

And "merit" is hard to sell... is it 'relative' as the new thinkers seem to project?  Or is it fixed, like a rigid traditionalist conservative might demand?

Honestly -- I think we need to let go of "what was" and start thinking a new kind of living.

I'm very serious.

We've become more isolated.  Almost everything can be purchased online and delivered.  Stores/restaurants/customer driven businesses are closing.  Why go out to eat?  Hot meals can be delivered to your door.  

Money/business can almost all be done online.  Want a house?  Have it delivered and set up on the spot.

We need to go back to gated communities -- all the homeless peasants (who are lazy, refuse to work, etc.) can all fight among themselves outside the walls.  Everyone complains -- no one has a solution.

Did you know broccoli is being developed with taller stems to make it easier for machines to harvest them  These machines currently have a human operator -- how long before the machines drive themselves?

When people use the word "traditional" it makes me cringe.

[RichardHurt]

I simply want my grievance addressed.