"Most Liberal Colleges" listed... But,.. why?

[ANNEE]

WHY?  Choice

Not everyone learns the same.  Not everyone is interested in the same thing.

Personally I would evaluate the job market and try to learn something that has monetary value.

But -- that changes over time.

Currently robotics seems to be the winner.  Not everyone has the aptitude for this field.

But can you sell it?  Do you have an aptitude to sell this product?

[Maxmars]

WHY?  Choice

Not everyone learns the same.  Not everyone is interested in the same thing.
Personally I would evaluate the job market and try to learn something that has monetary value.
But -- that changes over time.

Currently robotics seems to be the winner.  Not everyone has the aptitude for this field.
But can you sell it?  Do you have an aptitude to sell this product?

My "why" question is about how higher education is generally for adults... even young adults... who should be interested in achieving their vocational/professional goals....

... and now they seem to be creating a 'selling point' fueled not by what you can learn... but by what 'club' you can belong to....

The are segmenting learning... by ideology.... and making money at it too.

My "why" question lies there.

The "choosing" students are just grist for their mill.

[BeTheGoddess]

Nope, you will always pay for your student loans here in the UK, as long as you make enough money to do so.

Basically, there is a threshold, above such you pay and below such you don't. 

You can default until such time as you are making a decent wage, but student loans always come back to bite you on the arse.

The same applies to council tax, that debt never goes away or can be weaseled out of, even with bankruptcy.

Free education would be the ticket, but that's not exactly viable in this day of age for a multitude of reasons. 

As to job-hopping, i actually don't know that many people, or can think of any, that are in the same job they started out.

Here in the UK, the likes of jobs for life went the way of the dinosaur back in the 90s imho.

Look up HECS, our system here you DONT have to pay back those "student loans" and even tho the prices of courses/units goes up over the years, you start on a payment stream, you can go back and still only pay the cost of unit that it was when you started. When I went back to fail Laws, I was on the earlier HECS level and "paying" a thrid of what newbies would pay.

It gets better, if you stay in highereducation, not just posstgrad but even a new Ba/Bsc, you dont have to pay it back while doing it.

HRCS isnt perfect but its better than US and even the UK, Only out of pocket expenses are your books and alcohol (tho we did have beer subsidies in my undergrad years).

[andy06shake]

Look up HECS, our system here you DONT have to pay back those "student loans" and even tho the prices of courses/units goes up over the years, you start on a payment stream, you can go back and still only pay the cost of unit that it was when you started. When I went back to fail Laws, I was on the earlier HECS level and "paying" a thrid of what newbies would pay.

It gets better, if you stay in highereducation, not just posstgrad but even a new Ba/Bsc, you dont have to pay it back while doing it.

HRCS isnt perfect but its better than US and even the UK, Only out of pocket expenses are your books and alcohol (tho we did have beer subsidies in my undergrad years).

Cheers for the info BeTheGoddess.

I think Germany has a half-decent system where most public universities don't charge tuition fees.

[ANNEE]

My "why" question is about how higher education is generally for adults... even young adults... who should be interested in achieving their vocational/professional goals....

... and now they seem to be creating a 'selling point' fueled not by what you can learn... but by what 'club' you can belong to....

The are segmenting learning... by ideology.... and making money at it too.

My "why" question lies there.

The "choosing" students are just grist for their mill.

Hasn't it always been prestige what fraternity or sorority you get into?  Who you know -- who you hang with -- has always been a thing.

"Different Packaging"

The world has changed.  Like I've said -- I was a child of the 50's -- there was still a gender divide -- men worked -- women stayed home and raised the kids (mostly).  I've been through many social changes.

I remember when teachers actually taught -- then we had to compete with the Chinese -- everything became about test scores.  Thinkers aren't always good at taking tests.

Personally -- I'm very practical although it took me a long time to get here.  Love does not make the world go around -- money does.  A high end education helps.  Which few that are not children of millionaires can afford.

But I was raised in metaphysics (before it was a thing).  My mom used Shakespeare quotes for discipline. Grew up in the Hippie era.  So, I see many sides.  And I was never hampered by extreme religion.

Social has been very important for development in the era we are looking back at.  I think that's changing as we become more isolated.  Will we even need "brick and mortar" schools?

I've got a high functioning Asperger's Autistic graduating (hopefully) high school this coming year.  He has Dyscalculia -- so no robotics for him.  What do I do?

[Maxmars]

I've got a high functioning Asperger's Autistic graduating (hopefully) high school this coming year.  He has Dyscalculia -- so no robotics for him.  What do I do?

If you'll pardon the presumption... I have found that such skills are only part of what makes robotics, an actual human interest. 

Imagery, fantasy, speculation and play, are as much necessary as that which leads to actual manufacturing. 

If someone with such a limitation were to imagine something no one had before... the "limitation" is a pointless foible...

The 'disadvantaged' have proven of equal worth to those who aren't... that really says something...
in fact, I bet there is no field in which they haven't contributed... all we have to do is let them speak as they can... not every voice is on paper... not every truth is mathematical...

Oh lord.... I'm OT in my own thread....

[UltraBudgie]

Oh lord.... I'm OT in my own thread....

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[ANNEE]

If you'll pardon the presumption... I have found that such skills are only part of what makes robotics, an actual human interest. 

Imagery, fantasy, speculation and play, are as much necessary as that which leads to actual manufacturing. 

If someone with such a limitation were to imagine something no one had before... the "limitation" is a pointless foible...

The 'disadvantaged' have proven of equal worth to those who aren't... that really says something...
in fact, I bet there is no field in which they haven't contributed... all we have to do is let them speak as they can... not every voice is on paper... not every truth is mathematical...

Oh lord.... I'm OT in my own thread....

Let's get you back on topic.

With the increase in awareness and diagnosis of Spectrum disorders -- I wonder how that will affect teaching styles and curriculum.

The main issue is they tend to have a singular focus that they excel at.  Do they really need a "rounded" education?

Are Liberal schools better adapted to accommodate single focus learners?

BTW -- My kid has actually run his own online business for about 3 years.  As his SPED manager says -- there's this thing called a calculator.

[Maxmars]

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But I will always remember, member Maxmars is hosting this thread topic...  there is a lot of inherent control there... if I say it's on topic... it is...

PS - I'm not replying to this message.... 

[Maxmars]

Let's get you back on topic.

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Would we ascribe to the notion that a "liberal" college is more apt to provide a better education somehow?

I mean, why "liberal" as a factor ... if you are there to learn a profession?

As a "bragging" point it appears to have unstated value...

It's no different for conservative schools though... why does your staffs political leanings matter?  Students don't incur life-altering debt to become an ideological mouthpiece as a profession ... well I suppose some do.

As we learn more about what we've been missing by creating a social environment that automatically devalues the disabled... we are getting a bit more real... but not enough... I think.