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04-16-2025, 07:50 AM
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(04-16-2025, 07:30 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, Im more pragmatic, the right didn't usher in the dawn of Donald, the left did and continues to make the same mistakes over and over.
First, by not realizing how distasteful HRC was to a lot of Americans, a majority chose Trump over the her, then instead of leaving him alone with enough rope to hang himself in is 1st term, the left hounded him from day 1 swung and missed so many times he became a martyr and stronger than he could have ever become by himself. Biden, Harris Walz all made Trump look like platinum gold covered in Teflon to his base. If he is right on 2-3 of his projects, we could easily see another Republican President and Congress in 2028.
All the left can do now is try and placate their financial sponsors, but they held control of the narrative for so long, and they just fumbled it away, probably from sheer overconfidence. Democrats believed their bought and paid for press clippings, all the while ignoring thier internal polling.
Actually, it were the Independents, the apathetic (non-voters), and Trump's con job with promises promises (never to be realized) (song to follow) that tipped the scale by 1.5% in his favor.
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04-16-2025, 08:30 AM
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(04-16-2025, 07:50 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Actually, it were the Independents, the apathetic (non-voters), and Trump's con job with promises promises (never to be realized) (song to follow) that tipped the scale by 1.5% in his favor.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYtBF1OVciU]
Perhaps in your opinion, but those independents didn't bring that fervor the huge crowds to his rallies, they just don't. It's his base, the MAGAs, the Trumpers, thats who all the political lawfare energized FIRST and foremost. Only when the DNC tried to push Biden and then Harris/ Walz as viable candidates did the independents finally look to Trump for their ultimate salvation.
For all the worry, anxiety, whinging, and neurotically paranoid concern, Rasmussen still has Trump's approval hovering at 49-50%, but Democrats ignored thier internal polling since the beginning, why should they look at polls now?
Thier solution....let's trot out Biden and remind everybody how thankful we are the Democrats lost the narrative...cause they were leading the US down a blind alley full of fraud and corruption....
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04-16-2025, 08:42 AM
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(04-16-2025, 08:30 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Perhaps in your opinion, but those independents didn't bring that fervor the huge crowds to his rallies, they just don't. It's his base, the MAGAs, the Trumpers, thats who all the political lawfare energized FIRST and foremost. Only when the DNC tried to push Biden and then Harris/ Walz as viable candidates did the independents finally look to Trump for their ultimate salvation.
For all the worry, anxiety, whinging, and neurotically paranoid concern, Rasmussen still has Trump's approval hovering at 49-50%, but Democrats ignored thier internal polling since the beginning, why should they look at polls now?
Thier solution....let's trot out Biden and remind everybody how thankful we are the Democrats lost the narrative...cause they were leading the US down a blind alley full of fraud and corruption....
[Video: https://youtu.be/SftgE1vfwbk?si=6IO5KSIkKxcclusg]
Most polls seem to show his approval rating sinking underwater and his disapproval rating rising above it.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ap...ls-2058657
Plenty of other sources are available.
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(04-16-2025, 08:42 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Most polls seem to show his approval rating sinking underwater and his disapproval rating rising above it.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ap...ls-2058657
Plenty of other sources are available.
Yup. Should I repost Putnam6's 'Blind Alley' song again, for effect?
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(04-16-2025, 08:44 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Yup. Should I repost Putnam6's 'Blind Alley' song again, for effect?
We can maybe have a real discussion about Trump failing when his approval polling hits 45% or below, otherwise, he continues to be platinum and gold to the general public.
For perspective, the last time Biden hit 49-50% was briefly in October of 2023, so far in the 2nd term, the lowest Trump has pulled has been 47% for a couple of days. Trump had significantly more days 47% and under during the 3 first three months of his first term than he is experiencing now... the left has made him more popular than ever.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...ex_history
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(04-16-2025, 09:32 AM)putnam6 Wrote: We can maybe have a real discussion about Trump failing when his approval polling hits 45% or below, otherwise, he continues to be platinum and gold to the general public.
For perspective, the last time Biden hit 49-50% was briefly in October of 2023, so far in the 2nd term, the lowest Trump has pulled has been 47% for a couple of days. Trump had significantly more days 47% and under during the 3 first three months of his first term than he is experiencing now... the left has made him more popular than ever.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...ex_history
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...11-447.jpg]
Failing is not solely up to approval ratings, it's about fulfilling his promises to the people on Day 1...wait Day 100...wait Day ____ (fill in the blank with any number).
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(04-16-2025, 09:32 AM)putnam6 Wrote: We can maybe have a real discussion about Trump failing when his approval polling hits 45% or below, otherwise, he continues to be platinum and gold to the general public.
For perspective, the last time Biden hit 49-50% was briefly in October of 2023, so far in the 2nd term, the lowest Trump has pulled has been 47% for a couple of days. Trump had significantly more days 47% and under during the 3 first three months of his first term than he is experiencing now... the left has made him more popular than ever.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...ex_history
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...11-447.jpg]
Simple fact is his approval rating is sinking underwater and his disapproval rating is rising considerably.
Spin it how you will.
Trump Denial Syndrome.
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if he wanted his approval numbers up it would be very easy to do, just give democrats something to hate more than they hate him. but the shallow dialectic is working just fine on the american people right now, why bother?
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04-16-2025, 11:50 AM
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(04-16-2025, 11:18 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: if he wanted his approval numbers up it would be very easy to do, just give democrats something to hate more than they hate him. but the shallow dialectic is working just fine on the american people right now, why bother?
I honestly hope Trump ends up getting right, what truly matters for all of the people and is fair in his dealings with others.
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04-16-2025, 12:10 PM
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(04-16-2025, 09:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Failing is not solely up to approval ratings, it's about fulfilling his promises to the people on Day 1...wait Day 100...wait Day ____ (fill in the blank with any number).
All Im suggesting is the left can't help themselves and are making the same mistakes they did his 1st term.
As for fulfilling promises, why do you think his polling is so high? The left's constant attacks have grown Trump's base significantly, Republicans who shunned him 4 years ago are now saying, let him cook after the terrible time with tariffs
Let's make sure we understand the margins at play here: 50% is above average, 43% is meh,7 points Biden was meh his last 2 years, and the DNC pushed 43% MEH BIDEN, he was packaged, pushed, and presented as the best Presidential material the Progressive LBGTQ caucas had to offer.
Im not happy with all of his moves, but obviously 50% of those polled think he is doing just fine. Thats the DNC's problem, Trump's 50% after such controversial hot-button issues have been addressed, shows for now that half the country believes Trump is the cat's pajamas.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to America's biggest CEOs: Stop worrying
This is where Trump's base is; they stopped worrying and are essentially nourished daily by the left's sodium-infused tears.
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