Mass shooting at south Minneapolis church

[chr0naut]

And what about cars and trucks. Remember that guy who drove through a parade? And the truck in France some years ago. 

In one of those instances, in Magdeburg in Germany, despite the sensationalist mis-reportage and racist social media lies, the driver suffered a seizure that caused him to veer into the crowd, unable to brake. But, yes, a car can be misused as a weapon. Cars also have a lot more essential utility than firearms do. Cars are not designed for use as weapons. Firearms are designed for use as weapons.

Motor vehicles must be registered as mechanically safe and fit for purpose. Drivers must be licensed as being educated in road rules and physically capable of driving safely. If you are caught on a public thoroughfare without a valid license and registration you will be prosecuted, even if you have broken no other road rules. If you are exhibiting signs of unsafe driving (e.g. DUI) you will be prosecuted.

Similarly, it makes sense to have legislation around registration of firearms, their mechanical safety and fitness for purpose, and to license the owners/users for safety of use, storage and transport of the weapons. Any legislative system that does not endeavour to achieve the greatest safety of use, is deficient.

Australia is working on banning machetes. Where does it end, with sticks? Many can kill with a pencil. Should they be banned?

What utility is a machete in an urban environment? Clearly, there are many better tools for clearing undergrowth, so that only really leaves the machete functionality as a type of sword - a weapon.

And a pencil or a stick is not a particularly effective weapon. The have not been designed as weapons. They do, however have a lot of utility in other areas.

Murder is already illegal. Making it more illegal won't matter to those that are already willing to break that law. 

It depends upon if you view the law as entirely punitive (getting revenge upon the bad guys) or actually functional in prevention of commission of crime. Surely someone with no access to firearms cannot shoot someone to death. Or someone removed from society cannot pose a risk to the general public.

Self defence is not negotiable.

Negotiation is one effective defence. At least it will not initiate any sort of retaliatory action.

If you have a gun to defend yourself, but someone similarly armed (say a police officer) sees it and shoots you in the head pre-emptively, it is not particularly defensive for you, is it?

Edit: Americans will not join PAX until there is a reliable and safe phaser or needle stunner available. Then we will add that as a defence weapon.

In many countries, self defence is is not a valid reason to obtain a firearm license.

As previously I said, any intent to use a firearm against another human being (even in defence) is criminal intention to cause harm.

This is because it isn't about who is right and who is wrong, it is about actual safety from death or injury. Even for the bad guys!

[DontTreadOnMe]

What does it say?

I don't know about the manifesto, but I did see some of the images he had up.
One of them featured the names of other mass shooters....like they were his heroes or something.

Also, he attended the school some years back.
And his mother reportedly worked there up until a couple of years ago.

[DontTreadOnMe]

Unverified translation of first five pages:

He was either mentally ill or possessed by Lucifer.
Or both.

*shudders*

[DontTreadOnMe]

Does anyone know why this thread would have taken 2 hours to show up for me? I didn't do a search but I did check the current events and the new posts and this didn't show up until a few minutes ago.

As a public service announcement, try this link.
It shows the new threads.  I bookmarked to check each morning.
https://denyignorance.com/activethreads....ing&page=1

[RichardHurt]

I'd be interested in his browsing history going back to his 18th to current. Same goes with all the other shooters that may fall into a similar category.

[DBCowboy]

Some sicko trans weirdo brainwashed by the leftist bilge.

I'm glad he offed himself.  

Saved us the time.

Just wish he would have done it BEFORE killing innocents.

I'm sorry for the children and families.

[Bootless]

Who said anything about having prior knowledge?

People are amazingly quick on the internet, you know this right?  Not always correct, for sure, but when it comes to digging up history on some animal that does this kind of thing, (and even sometimes innocent people) some people just have the skills to dig up anything that person has put on line.

This is not new, for sure.   Sometimes it scares me, how fast they are.  Certainly eye opening.

Take two.

I heard on WCCO - CBS Minnesota that the person posted the materials with a time delay to be released today.

I don't know how something like that works, but at least I no longer think that Charlie Kirk was sitting on information that he could have passed on.

[RazorV66]

Well, this thread has turned into a politicesed anti transgender Evil Dems fest.

Just like the last days of ATS.

Well done.


Can we not do better at DI?

I am very sorry that the truth hurts you.

Instead of playing along and normalizing men/boys that think they are women/girls or vice versa, why not address the mental instability that they are suffering from and try to help them?

It's not reality, it's make believe and that's 100% fact.

The Democrats don't care about their suffering, they want to fuel it.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Take two.

I heard on WCCO - CBS Minnesota that the person posted the materials with a time delay to be released today.

I don't know how something like that works, but at least I no longer think that Charlie Kirk was sitting on information that he could have passed on.

You can do that on YouTube, DeviantArt and many other sites. You upload your file then set it to publish at a later date and time. That often requires the paid service level though.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Using the lbgq whatever as a scapegoat has been mentioned in this thread. I don't see that as much as encouraging a person to force others to celebrate your beliefs causing problems. Not everyone will be happy supporting you but most will ignore you if they feel uncomfortable about it.

I think that causes increasing mental problems, the expectations that everyone will support you no matter what you are. The ones that all they are is the alternative lifestyle have the problem. Most are just people that are a little different.