Jeju Air 737 crash South Korea

[Zaphod58]

A Jeju Air 737-800 attempting to make a gear up landing at Muon International Airport slid off the runway and hit a perimeter fence. The aircraft broke apart and caught fire after hitting the fence. There were 175 passengers and six crew on board, and at least 28 are feared dead. At least twenty casualties had been confirmed. The aircraft was a 737-8AS, operating as 7C2216, and registered as HL8088. The same aircraft diverted to Seoul yesterday after declaring an emergency. The pilots today attempted a landing, but were unable to get the landing gear down, so performed a go around. On a later attempt, they attempted a gear up landing. It appears that flaps and slats were also retracted, leading to a higher landing speed, leaving the crew unable to stop the aircraft on the runway. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2...ve-updates
https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/jeju...outh-korea
https://aviationsourcenews.com/jeju-air-...-to-seoul/

Video of the crash:
https://x.com/MCCCANM/status/1873177637679694221

[Maxmars]

I first offer condolences for all those people who are affected personally from this tragic event.

The "gears up" landing sounds to be one of multiple failures.  

I don't want to sound silly, but this is another Boeing incident to add to an already long list... I never imagined it continue to get worse.

I know it's probably too early to make guesses about this... but that was quite a fireball when it hit the fence... would that be because they still had fuel in the wings?

[Zaphod58]

I first offer condolences for all those people who are affected personally from this tragic event.

The "gears up" landing sounds to be one of multiple failures.  

I don't want to sound silly, but this is another Boeing incident to add to an already long list... I never imagined it continue to get worse.

I know it's probably too early to make guesses about this... but that was quite a fireball when it hit the fence... would that be because they still had fuel in the wings?

It's a 15.4 year old aircraft. Just because it's a Boeing doesn't mean this has anything to do with them.  Early reports are possible bird strike.

They land with a fair amount of fuel remaining usually, in case they have to go around multiple times, or divert to another airport.  The aircraft broke apart when they hit the berm, leading to the explosion.

[Zaphod58]

Video of them over the airport appears to show a possible bird strike, or something wrong with the right engine. Just before it goes out of frame, there's a brief spurt of flame out the exhaust of the engine.

https://x.com/CJDaniels77/status/1873188655554281900

[Zaphod58]

South Korean fire authorities have confirmed 47 dead so far. One crew member, and one passenger have been sent to a local hospital. The Muan-Bangkok route opened three weeks ago.

Authorities are now saying 62 dead.

[Zaphod58]

Current death toll is 176 dead, two rescued, three missing.

[KKLoco]

Why did they emergency crash land the plane so close to the berm? I’m no expert, just seems like common knowledge that they’d want to land in an open of an area as possible. Unless they were trying to limit collateral damage, and look where that got them.

[Zaphod58]

Why did they emergency crash land the plane so close to the berm? I’m no expert, just seems like common knowledge that they’d want to land in an open of an area as possible. Unless they were trying to limit collateral damage, and look where that got them.

Someone said they landed the opposite direction because of all the houses off the end of the runway in the direction everything else was landing. If they didn’t stop they would have gone into all the houses and the death toll would be a lot higher. They hit the berm because they ended up floating a long way down the runway due to the higher approach speed and lack of flaps and slats.

[KKLoco]

Thank you. Really good analysis in this video. This guy is questioning why they had such a reinforced wall for just antennas. Apparently, they didn’t hit a fence. 

[quintessentone]

I first offer condolences for all those people who are affected personally from this tragic event.

The "gears up" landing sounds to be one of multiple failures.  

I don't want to sound silly, but this is another Boeing incident to add to an already long list... I never imagined it continue to get worse.

I know it's probably too early to make guesses about this... but that was quite a fireball when it hit the fence... would that be because they still had fuel in the wings?

I too offer condolences for the families that are grieving over their loss of loved ones from this horrifying tragic crash.

I am just reading that this type of aircraft does still carry a good amount of fuel at the time of landing as well, because of it's longer design and so that the tail will not drag on the runway, the landing speed needs to be at a higher speed.

I am also reading where Boeing's manufacturing problems have been reported as them using faulty parts and rudder jamming issues due to, get this, " seals at supplier Collins Aerospace were installed backwards, allowing water to enter and freeze at high altitudes, inhibiting rudder movement. However this is far from the only problem with rudder controls on the Max". (A quick google search will confirm that Collins Aerospace also worked/works on the 737-800.)

Additionally, I am also reading where Boeing has not yet addressed these manufacturing problems, to this date!

I advocate for all aircraft manufacturers to design planes whereby passengers and crew are somehow protected from the forces of a crash and fire, something akin to an airbag, but I'm not an engineer, I am a customer that thinks they should do much better to protect lives.

https://technokontrol.com/en/products/ai...rcraft.php

The bird strike cause is being disputed.
 

"Why didn't fire tenders lay foam on the runway? Why weren't they in attendance when the plane touched down? And why did the aircraft touch down so far down the runway? And why was there a brick wall at the end of the runway?" said Airline News editor Geoffrey Thomas.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacif...024-12-29/