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Jeffrey Epstein files: Ghislaine Maxwell is ready to reveal the 'truth'
(07-17-2025, 01:44 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Thought experiment: Consider the following.... I'm going to come to your home town with my retired DOJ ID, and bring along a retired FBI friend of mine. We are going to go to the principal and teachers at the school where your kids attend, and we are going to tell them that you are a pedophile. We can't tell them how we know, but we just want them to know what we know about you.
Then we're going to attend a Sunday service at the church you attend, and share the same information with the parishioners who are your friends and neighbors.
Then we're going to attend a morning meeting of the Optimist Club where you are a member and repeat what we know about you, and just assure them that the information is in government records they can't see, but it is there.
Then we'll go to go the VP of personnel of the company where you are a senior manager and supervise close to 100 people. They will learn the same information.
Then I'm going to leave town and never return. You can then go about trying to repair your reputation in the community.

That's what innocent people whose names are contained in the "Epstein Files" would face if they were just opened up to public scrutiny.
A modern day witch hunt and mob justice in America.
No thanks.

It’s a pretty clear question I asked:

"It’s not about publishing random names. It’s about exposing who was connected to a convicted sex trafficker... names the system buried to protect the powerful.”

I never said to accuse random people. This is about holding powerful individuals accountable... those who used or enabled a trafficking network.

So again:
Should those names stay sealed forever?

 It’s a simple question.
1. Yes = truth matters.
2. No = you’re defending a cover-up.
3. Maybe or no answer = you’re still defending a cover-up.
 
Pick one. 
(07-17-2025, 01:44 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Thought experiment: Consider the following.... I'm going to come to your home town with my retired DOJ ID, and bring along a retired FBI friend of mine. We are going to go to the principal and teachers at the school where your kids attend, and we are going to tell them that you are a pedophile. We can't tell them how we know, but we just want them to know what we know about you.
Then we're going to attend a Sunday service at the church you attend, and share the same information with the parishioners who are your friends and neighbors.
Then we're going to attend a morning meeting of the Optimist Club where you are a member and repeat what we know about you, and just assure them that the information is in government records they can't see, but it is there.
Then we'll go to go the VP of personnel of the company where you are a senior manager and supervise close to 100 people. They will learn the same information.
Then I'm going to leave town and never return. You can then go about trying to repair your reputation in the community.

That's what innocent people whose names are contained in the "Epstein Files" would face if they were just opened up to public scrutiny.
A modern day witch hunt and mob justice in America.
No thanks.

Don't do business with shady people. And I refuse to believe that not a single person he had major dealings with didn't know he was doing some jank shit.
(07-17-2025, 03:01 PM)imitator Wrote: It’s a pretty clear question I asked:

"It’s not about publishing random names. It’s about exposing who was connected to a convicted sex trafficker... names the system buried to protect the powerful.”

I never said to accuse random people. This is about holding powerful individuals accountable... those who used or enabled a trafficking network.

So again:
Should those names stay sealed forever?

 It’s a simple question.
1. Yes = truth matters.
2. No = you’re defending a cover-up.
3. Maybe or no answer = you’re still defending a cover-up.
 
Pick one. 



We don't know.  Because...TACO..  Cover up?

Bloody obviously.  Even his MAGA base are screaming about it.

Unbelievable.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
For some reason I can't directly quote your post, xuenchen but if Trump has already performed his own investigation and he discovered that Obama, Comey, Hillary & Biden added fake evidence, he should know falsifying records is a federal crime punishable by 20 years.

 18 U.S.C. § 1519 is a federal statute that criminalizes the destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations or bankruptcy proceedings. It states: Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Time to make some arrests.
(07-17-2025, 05:58 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: For some reason I can't directly quote your post, xuenchen but if Trump has already performed his own investigation and he discovered that Obama, Comey, Hillary & Biden added fake evidence, he should know falsifying records is a federal crime punishable by 20 years.

 18 U.S.C. § 1519 is a federal statute that criminalizes the destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations or bankruptcy proceedings. It states: Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Time to make some arrests.

Since they have Maurene Comey snapping the traps, we'll see what she decides to give up to save her own ass  [Image: pray.gif]
The WSJ's big "exposé" is some stupid letter Trump allegedy wrote to Epstein for his 50th birthday which is supposed to somehow point to guilt or wrongdoing.

Trump's response is to release some "pertinent" grand jury testimony (subject to court approval) ?

We are all being played.
(07-17-2025, 10:00 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The WSJ's big "exposé" is some stupid letter Trump allegedy wrote to Epstein for his 50th birthday which is supposed to somehow point to guilt or wrongdoing.

Trump's response is to release some "pertinent" grand jury testimony (subject to court approval) ?

We are all being played.



Trump’s response was actually “I’ll sue your dumb asses for publishing retarded lies”, or something similar.
If you believe the WSJ and think there’s a Epstein list, you’re being played.
Ignorance is bliss, so they say.
(07-17-2025, 10:24 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Trump’s response was actually “I’ll sue your dumb asses for publishing retarded lies”, or something similar.
If you believe the WSJ and think there’s a Epstein list, you’re being played.
Ignorance is bliss, so they say.

I'm trying to understand your logic.

On one hand, you claim there's no list.

On the other hand, you say there are names in the Epstein files of innocent people who need to be protected.
(07-17-2025, 12:24 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Trump said some of the files are fake, not all of em  Smilegrin
Must just be the planted fakes  [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmilies/beamup.gif]


Care to post where he said 'some'?

From Trumps own mouth....
Quote:Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration

I thought it was illegal to forge official documents? Perhaps stop the hero worship and look it with an unbiased view.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(07-18-2025, 07:18 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I thought it was illegal to forge official documents? Perhaps stop the hero worship and look it with an unbiased view.

I have a feeling that line will be a great topic of debate in the coming days.



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