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(04-28-2026, 07:43 AM)quintessentone Wrote: That would depend upon the catastrophic event causing TS to HTF in the first place. If it is an economic collapse and government help disappears, then I have Greece's societal actions to look back on and learn from. Even in a Mad Max scenario, people merged into a community.
If it is a nuclear disaster in cities, then that is not necessarily a hopeless situation, as nuclear radiation subsides rather quickly before people can venture outside their homes to look for food and water and/or others to help them. Most people going outside during the first few days will not survive.
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"It is generally recommended to stay sheltered for at least 72 hours to two weeks after a nuclear detonation before venturing outside. - Critical Period (First 24–48 Hours): Radiation levels are at their highest and most lethal during the first day. The most dangerous isotopes are present, and staying indoors is crucial to avoid acute radiation sickness.
- Standard Recommendation (72 Hours to 14 Days): Experts advise remaining in a sealed shelter for a minimum of three days, with two weeks being the ideal duration to allow radiation levels to decay to safer thresholds. The "Rule of 7s" indicates that for every seven-fold increase in time after the blast, radiation intensity drops by a factor of ten.
- Safety Verification: Before exiting, it is essential to monitor radiation levels using a Geiger counter and follow instructions from emergency management authorities, as conditions vary based on distance from the blast, weather, and whether the explosion was an airburst or ground burst." (LLM)
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A healthy dose of scrutiny is a wise course of action along with a loaded and trusty firearm within fast and easy reach.
And what did those communities resemble aside from stagnation and decline?
Is that community or a slow death with competition all around?
Wait...thats life. LoL
I think you may just have more faith in humanity than i do, Quint.
Which is a good thing...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-28-2026, 07:46 AM)andy06shake Wrote: And what did those communities resemble aside from stagnation and decline?
Is that community or a slow death with competition all around?
Wait...thats life. LoL
I think you may just have more faith in humanity than i do, Quint.
Which is a good thing...
I think we all may be focused on the 'bad news' that media puts out there to sway the true state of reality when it comes to ordinary people out there just trying to survive. Are there some bad apples? Sure but not as many as we may be led to believe.
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"Research indicates that a very small percentage of the population is responsible for a disproportionately large share of violent crimes. One percent of the population is estimated to be responsible for 63 percent of all violent crime convictions, a finding often cited from studies such as those conducted in Sweden. In the United States, estimates suggest that between 0.3% and 0.6% of men are violent criminals, while broader estimates for total violent offenders in the general population range from 1% to 15%, depending on the methodology and whether repeat offenses are included (LLM)
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See what I mean?
Again, a healthy bit of scrutiny when assessing people along with a firearm by your side is a wise stance to take and getting to know your neighbors a little bit better is also a good idea.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(04-28-2026, 07:52 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I think we all may be focused on the 'bad news' that media puts out there to sway the true state of reality when it comes to ordinary people out there just trying to survive. Are there some bad apples? Sure but not as many as we may be led to believe.
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"Research indicates that a very small percentage of the population is responsible for a disproportionately large share of violent crimes. One percent of the population is estimated to be responsible for 63 percent of all violent crime convictions, a finding often cited from studies such as those conducted in Sweden. In the United States, estimates suggest that between 0.3% and 0.6% of men are violent criminals, while broader estimates for total violent offenders in the general population range from 1% to 15%, depending on the methodology and whether repeat offenses are included (LLM)
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See what I mean?
Again, a healthy bit of scrutiny when assessing people along with a firearm by your side is a wise stance to take and getting to know your neighbors a little bit better is also a good idea.
Problem being the violent people out there who don't want to be assessed.
They just want your stuff, your water, supplies, ammunition, and possibly flesh...
And they could very well be your neighbors.
A lot of people change when their circumstances do the same.
It's easy for some people to commit violence quint.
All they have to do is have the motivation and the upbringing.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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I quit looking up to and trusting people long ago. It took a long time but the sunshine finally returned to my previously horrible situation.
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(04-28-2026, 05:35 PM)Knows Wrote: I quit looking up to and trusting people long ago. It took a long time but the sunshine finally returned to my previously horrible situation. 
Since we can't give likes anymore, then you just get a smiling face instead.
I hope you still trust yourself.
When that inner trust is steady, it becomes easier to trust others again, not blindly, but in a grounded, healthy way. We are not meant to move through life completely alone.
None of us can carry everything by ourselves.
Evil Will Never Win.
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(04-28-2026, 08:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Problem being the violent people out there who don't want to be assessed.
They just want your stuff, your water, supplies, ammunition, and possibly flesh...
And they could very well be your neighbors.
A lot of people change when their circumstances do the same.
It's easy for some people to commit violence quint.
All they have to do is have the motivation and the upbringing.
Yes, people can become dangerous when desperation or trauma takes over, that part is real.
But most people don't collapse into violence when life gets heavy. Many actually become more supportive of one another.
Evil Will Never Win.
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(04-25-2026, 07:58 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Define trust
What doesn't matter until it's gone.
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(05-31-2026, 02:16 AM)Golden Duck Wrote: What doesn't matter until it's gone.
Nailed it!
When is present, we rarely notice it.
When it's broken, everything changes...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(05-30-2026, 10:56 PM)LightAngel Wrote: Yes, people can become dangerous when desperation or trauma takes over, that part is real.
But most people don't collapse into violence when life gets heavy. Many actually become more supportive of one another.
I suppose suffering reveals possibility, not destiny...
How we choose to act is a matter of volition.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(05-31-2026, 04:21 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I suppose suffering reveals possibility, not destiny...
How we choose to act is a matter of volition. 
I think the truth often lives in the grey.
In all the nuances of life that don't fit into boxes.
Evil Will Never Win.
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