It's Hard To Trust People Online.

[quintessentone]

Hardly.

There is already rumblings and rumors of what you e said to or asked of AI being used against you in court. Now is this true in and of itself? I dunno. Is it concerning? Hell yeah. Surprising? Not really.

As far as trusting anyone online, I think the digital mask allows people to access deviant manners of being or communicating they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. Just visit any lobby for an online FPS game and hang on tight. Lol.

But not anything is really normal about the hellscape that is online, certainly with a nod to how things are being supercharged with AI. Certainly with regards to how it influences behavior in communicating from business to romance between people. 

Pwrsonally I’m anti. But if you know me from ATS/DI I’m an asshole. RL? Yeah still an asshole but with a charming visage and imposed self-denigrating good humor.

I think we here on DI (prev. ATS) have a pretty good handle on long term members' true natures and I can tell everyone here that I am as abrupt, humorous, and truth telling, as per my perceptions, in RL as I am here...and you will get back exactly what you give to me; consider it a teaching moment.

As for AI being a source to f**k me up in court, well what I say to that is get a really good lawyer as some of them can, from my experience, work miracles.

[andy06shake]

I think we here on DI (prev. ATS) have a pretty good handle on long term members' true natures and I can tell everyone here that I am as abrupt, humorous, and truth telling, as per my perceptions, in RL as I am here...and you will get back exactly what you give to me; consider it a teaching moment.

As for AI being a source to f**k me up in court, well what I say to that is get a really good lawyer as some of them can, from my experience, work miracles.

The problem is that the miracle worker lawyers tend to charge an arm and a leg...

[quintessentone]

The problem is that the miracle worker lawyers tend to charge an arm and a leg...

Depending on the charges against you, it will be worth the price to not have to perhaps pay the defendant an arm and a leg or pay the price in prison? Pay either way but with a good lawyer perhaps walk away with your reputation and freedom intact? I just talked someone into hiring a lawyer and damn the cost and he did and it is going very well for him.

[andy06shake]

Depending on the charges against you, it will be worth the price to not have to perhaps pay the defendant an arm and a leg or pay the price in prison? Pay either way but with a good lawyer perhaps walk away with your reputation intact?

Thats why the criminal prosecutions, in this nation, anyway.

Amounts to plea deals being made a hell of a lot more than jury trials, Quint.

Justice can be expensive...

And for a lot of people, it's simply the better option to plead to a lower set of charges.

Sad but true.

[quintessentone]

Thats why the criminal prosecutions, in this nation, anyway.

Amounts to plea deals being made a hell of a lot more than jury trials, Quint.

Justice can be expensive...

And for a lot of people, it's simply the better option to plead to a lower set of charges.

Sad but true.

I expect the new generation of lawyers will utilize AI against AI when it comes to figuring out how to get around the law because from how I see it, it seems to me that lawyers just need a plausible/reasonable argument against the vagueness or original interpretation of certain laws.

[andy06shake]

I expect the new generation of lawyers will utilize AI against AI when it comes to figuring out how to get around the law because from how I see it, it seems to me that lawyers just need a plausible/reasonable argument against the vagueness or original interpretation of certain laws.

Well, that would depend on things like evidence, mate.

I mean, there are holes that a good lawyer can dig you out of.

And some holes can be paved over and made to look somewhat more presentable.

Depends on lots of things, like who the judge is, and what the jury can be made to believe.

Some of these people are quite frankly magicians and confidence masters who could make people think anything they want.

Given enouth time to influence them.

If AI is copying their examples.

And considering it learns statistical patterns across huge datasets...

[SteamyAmerican]

Not trying to derail. But on the issue of honesty….

Is a day coming soon in a court of law where top-shelf lawyers that have the best AI trained in legalese, can best their counterparts that may not have the latest up-to-date/rendered with facts and cases AI?

At that point does the truth matter? Does it now with current laws, lawyers, and judges handing out sentences that do not fit crimes?

Are we past the rubicon where setting a warehouse on fire is worth life in jail, but assaulting a young girl gets you less than a year or house arrest?

[Rigel4]

It's stupid to trust anyone online. Or anywhere else. 

It's even more stupid to trust anyone in the real world

[andy06shake]

It's even more stupid to trust anyone in the real world

Trusting someone is simply giving them a finite amount of time to let you down.

Because nobody is perfect.

But it's not just a countdown to disappointment.

More like an everyday risk we continuously renegotiate.

The thing about trust is that without a modecum of such being extended we would never get anything done...

[quintessentone]

Trusting someone is simply giving them a finite amount of time to let you down.

Because nobody is perfect.

But it's not just a countdown to disappointment.

More like an everyday risk we continuously renegotiate.

The thing about trust is that without a modecum of such being extended we would never get anything done...

I've learned to continue to extend trust to others but now with the saying "hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst" in the back of my mind.