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Isreal launches strikes on Iran
(06-22-2025, 07:27 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Russia has threatened using nukes as a deterrent to supplying the Ukraine.  How is that working out.

Threatening to use nukes by Russia has not deterred the supply of aid to Ukraine. What it does show is that Putin is just blustering, which other countries like Finland say he always has done.
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(06-22-2025, 07:25 AM)quintessentone Wrote: If you want to talk terrorism


Despite Isreal and the US having nukes.  Iran sponsors terrorism and proxy wars in a bid to overthrow governments.  Where they kill civilians and attack shipping lanes.

Where Iran uses martyrdom and many groups practice terrorism and holding hostages.  Iran isn’t going to change.  And they will only be emboldened by having a nuke.

Again.  Isreal is mostly a secular government that believes in human rights not even contemplated under the Iranian government.  How does the world benefit from Iran getting nukes?
(06-22-2025, 07:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Threatening to use nukes by Russia has not deterred the supply of aid to Ukraine. What it does show is that Putin is just blustering, which other countries like Finland say he always has done.


Ok.  Putin has nukes and has threatened to use them as a deterrent. 

Yet, the west is still supplying the Ukraine.
(06-22-2025, 07:32 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Despite Isreal and the US having nukes.  Iran sponsors terrorism and proxy wars in a bid to overthrow governments.  Where they kill civilians and attack shipping lanes.

Where Iran uses martyrdom and many groups practice terrorism and holding hostages.  Iran isn’t going to change.  And they will only be emboldened by having a nuke.

Again.  Isreal is mostly a secular government that believes in human rights not even contemplated under the Iranian government.  How does the world benefit from Iran getting nukes?

Iran can still get nukes from N. Korea, China or Russia and I would hazard a guess that if that happens peace talks will commence right away. The benefit would be in stopping WWIII.
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(06-22-2025, 07:32 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Despite Isreal and the US having nukes.  Iran sponsors terrorism and proxy wars in a bid to overthrow governments.  Where they kill civilians and attack shipping lanes.

Where Iran uses martyrdom and many groups practice terrorism and holding hostages.  Iran isn’t going to change.  And they will only be emboldened by having a nuke.

Again.  Isreal is mostly a secular government that believes in human rights not even contemplated under the Iranian government.  How does the world benefit from Iran getting nukes?

Wallflower dropping the mother of all truth bombs from thier B-2s

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(06-22-2025, 07:35 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Wallflower dropping the mother of all truth bombs from thier B-2s

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Not really, Trump has no strategy and his actions will only escalate tensions in the Middle East.

Are you, MAGA, signing up to go over there to fight in the war?
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(06-22-2025, 07:35 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Iran can still get nukes from N. Korea, China or Russia and I would hazard a guess that if that happens peace talks will commence right away. The benefit would be in stopping WWIII.


With The current "Iran", there's no such thing as peace talks. They are all BS all the time.  Lol
(06-22-2025, 07:39 AM)xuenchen Wrote: With The current "Iran", there's no such thing as peace talks. They are all BS all the time.  Lol

Let's wait to see who gives them nukes, then see how fast peace talks will commence.
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(06-22-2025, 07:32 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Despite Isreal and the US having nukes.  Iran sponsors terrorism and proxy wars in a bid to overthrow governments.  Where they kill civilians and attack shipping lanes.

Where Iran uses martyrdom and many groups practice terrorism and holding hostages.  Iran isn’t going to change.  And they will only be emboldened by having a nuke.

Again.  Isreal is mostly a secular government that believes in human rights not even contemplated under the Iranian government.  How does the world benefit from Iran getting nukes?

The world absolutely does not benefit from Iran having nukes. But defense contractors will be very happy. As for Israel believing in human rights, I think we have all seen even those with the best intentions violate many others basic human rights. So that last part is null IMO.
(06-22-2025, 07:38 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Not really, Trump has no strategy and his actions will only escalate tensions in the Middle East.

Are you, MAGA, signing up to go over there to fight in the war?



Seems like keeping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon and protecting shipping lanes is a pretty clear strategy.

i will post this.  From Iran to the USA.  Funny with all these countries that want peace.  From not exploiting workers to promoting democracy.  With all these nuclear deterrents.  Countries are willing to dump money into the Ukraine to keep the war going while thousands are sacrificed.

Funny there are all these peace loving humanitarian countries.  But there is always money for bombs.  And not so much for the homeless and the hungry.



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