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(06-16-2025, 11:12 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/193464...zLwcRvUqtg
“Iranian state-run media: “We are about to launch a very large attack against Israel, the largest and most violent missile attack in history on Israeli territory."”
Zero urban impacts, only ten missiles launched. Baghdad Bob would approve.
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Tucker Carlson on the "Bannon War Room" YouTube channel, he expresses strong opposition to a potential US war with Iran, asserting it would be the "end of the Trump presidency and the end of American empire."
Carlson points out the "war mongers" within the Trump administration and media.
I somewhat agree with Tucker's perspective.
Plus: considering Israel's size, Iran wouldn't necessarily need a nuclear weapon to pose a significant threat. I think it's a misguided move for Israel that will come back to bite them, and it's potentially problematic for Trump if dragged into this conflict. Many within MAGA are opposed to this type of warmongering.
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...but you can't let worst-case scenario dictate policy.
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06-16-2025, 05:47 PM
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(06-16-2025, 05:43 PM)Bush Master Wrote: ...but you can't let worst-case scenario dictate policy.
If you're afraid — don't do it
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exactly... Acting out of fear can lead to poor decisions.
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KC-135 GOLD24 departed Salt Lake City for the East Coast. The GOLD callsign denotes a refueling mission involving fighters. SecDef announced more units moving to the region, and this indicates they are sending fighters separately from all the tanker movements last night.
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(06-16-2025, 05:36 PM)imitator Wrote: Tucker Carlson on the "Bannon War Room" YouTube channel, he expresses strong opposition to a potential US war with Iran, asserting it would be the "end of the Trump presidency and the end of American empire."
Carlson points out the "war mongers" within the Trump administration and media.
I somewhat agree with Tucker's perspective.
Plus: considering Israel's size, Iran wouldn't necessarily need a nuclear weapon to pose a significant threat. I think it's a misguided move for Israel that will come back to bite them, and it's potentially problematic for Trump if dragged into this conflict. Many within MAGA are opposed to this type of warmongering.
[Video: https://youtu.be/6WKYldBhtH0?si=mmJoSHN26ArzWq-F]
Honestly, if Iran's dictatorship topples from Israel alone, with only US defensive help to them. It could be a huge success if it happens quickly with minimal damage and loss of life.
If we get involved, he will break the record for most spending and debt by a single president after his first term.
He has a big choice to make.
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(06-16-2025, 05:36 PM)imitator Wrote: Tucker Carlson on the "Bannon War Room" YouTube channel, he expresses strong opposition to a potential US war with Iran, asserting it would be the "end of the Trump presidency and the end of American empire."
Carlson points out the "war mongers" within the Trump administration and media.
I somewhat agree with Tucker's perspective.
Plus: considering Israel's size, Iran wouldn't necessarily need a nuclear weapon to pose a significant threat. I think it's a misguided move for Israel that will come back to bite them, and it's potentially problematic for Trump if dragged into this conflict. Many within MAGA are opposed to this type of warmongering.
[Video: https://youtu.be/6WKYldBhtH0?si=mmJoSHN26ArzWq-F]
I think it was a bad move on the US to give them the go ahead and it was dumb for Isreal to start things. Now that we are here though...they must finish it now. If not the first thing they will do now is develop a nuke and probably use it. If not use it those same threats will destabilize the region worst than it already is. We are past point zulu and if it requires the US to finish the job then so be it.
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06-16-2025, 06:05 PM
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(06-16-2025, 05:49 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Honestly, if Iran's dictatorship topples from Israel alone, with only US defensive help to them. It could be a huge success if it happens quickly with minimal damage and loss of life.
If we get involved, he will break the record for most spending and debt by a single president after his first term.
He has a big choice to make.
It’s a tough call either way, and the pressure is definitely on Trump to find a path that avoids a long, expensive conflict.
But, if we do get involved... they better make Israel the 51'st state.
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(06-16-2025, 05:49 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Honestly, if Iran's dictatorship topples from Israel alone, with only US defensive help to them. It could be a huge success if it happens quickly with minimal damage and loss of life.
If we get involved, he will break the record for most spending and debt by a single president after his first term.
He has a big choice to make.
You want regime change while somewhere in Iran there is a stockpile of enriched uranium gloating about. Facilities with who knows what inside that are deeper than even the US can reach without dropping multiple GBU-57s on the same spot. Sounds like a recipe for something bad to happen elsewhere in the world.
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(06-16-2025, 06:08 PM)RickyD Wrote: You want regime change while somewhere in Iran there is a stockpile of enriched uranium gloating about. Facilities with who knows what inside that are deeper than even the US can reach without dropping multiple GBU-57s on the same spot. Sounds like a recipe for something bad to happen elsewhere in the world.
To be fair, this comes from the same people who told us that Iraq had WMD. Israel played a big role in that.
Israel has said Iran will have a nuke soon for decades now. I remember every few years it was just months or weeks away.
Maybe they were actually getting close this time, but I wonder if that was our problem. NK has nukes, Pakistan has nukes.
I'm also not confident this would just be a quick in and out. Iraq and Afghanistan took decades, We've also dropped an insane amount of bombs on Yemen to no avail, and that is just a separatist force. Iran is very mountainous, and I don't see how they would be easier than any of the others. For decades, most Americans haven't bought into the motivation to take on Iran, especially the communities who could see this was always a plan from the warhawks.
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