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Israel approves plan to seize all of Gaza
Just going to drop this here in this thread since the other links are here too and some people still like to put the word genocide in "scare quotes":

Quote:Therefore, the International Association of Genocide Scholars:

Declares that Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide in Article II of the United Nations Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948);

Declares that Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza constitute war crimes and crimes against humanity as defined in international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court;

...Resolution passed 31 August 2025
https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/...-FINAL.pdf
(09-02-2025, 10:04 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Just going to drop this here in this thread since the other links are here too and some people still like to put the word genocide in "scare quotes":

https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/...-FINAL.pdf



Does the new legal definition of genocide include an increase in population?
The population of Gaza is more than it was on October 8th.
Make it make sense, good luck.
Same old definition:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mec...e-genocide

Same old denial.
(09-02-2025, 11:45 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Does the new legal definition of genocide include an increase in population?
The population of Gaza is more than it was on October 8th.
Make it make sense, good luck.

Explain yourself please?
New legal definition?
The established population of the Gaza expanded since the Israel military oppression...sorry operation started?
(09-01-2025, 10:43 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: There's a newly-leaked prospectus about plans to transform Gaza:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-...elocation/
Archive link with no paywall: https://archive.ph/FOLo0

Let's see if I can embed the PDF:
[pdf]https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/f86dd56a-de7f-4943-af4a-84819111b727.pdf[/pdf]
PDF link (38 pages): https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents...11b727.pdf

Also covered by Haaretz:
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2025-08-...ff10dd0000
Archive link with no paywall: https://archive.ph/8ok6Z

I think Trump will like it because it is a "GREAT" plan. Sigh.
 
If his Worldwide Arab Appeasment + Plane Acquisition Tour of Deals indicated anything, I think he has VERY specific countries in mind to lead the Gaza rebuild if the hypoethetical international commerce zone comes to fruition. 

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There is not a single dredged marina that can accomidate a super yacht on the entire Gaza coastline!
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(09-02-2025, 05:08 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote:  
If his Worldwide Arab Appeasment + Plane Acquisition Tour of Deals indicated anything, I think he has VERY specific countries in mind to lead the Gaza rebuild if the hypoethetical international commerce zone comes to fruition. 

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There is not a single dredged marina that accomidate a super yacht on the entire Gaza coastline!

I was amused by the AI-generated image with the oil derricks off the coast:

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There's also an "Elon Musk Smart Manufacturing Zone".

Quote:You smell that? Do you smell that? Pandering, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of pandering in the morning. You know, one time we had a country bombed for 3 years. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell — you know that money smell — the whole country smelled like victory. Someday this war's gonna end.
As a Zionist, I hope that Israel crushes the Hamas ideology that the Gaza-folks embrace.

Nothing good can come from propping and supporting ANYONE that wants the end to the Jewish State and all Jews.
(09-02-2025, 06:27 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I was amused by the AI-generated image with the oil derricks off the coast:

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...-21-49.png]

There's also an "Elon Musk Smart Manufacturing Zone".

But you cant do Dubai On The Mediterranean if you have a Jihad mindset.  So assuming they actually can eliminate Hamas...

How hard will it be to change their allegiance?
How hard will it be to eliminate Hamas indoctrination?

I think it's a tell which countries are throwing up only verbal criticism and sending aid. Far be it from me to call the rich Arab world objectivist or anything though...

The pandering might be a sell. They like money. And edible gold flakes caviar something. And horseracing. And car racing. And sponsoring football uniforms. And nautical things. 

So... After The Charter is burnt and Gaza is shaken like an etch-a-sketch..

If you bring in an Emirate contractor to offer jobs starting at $550/month USD.  All of a sudden the Western compatible versions of Islamic society gave them MORE than Hamas EVER did. Enough to not be angry anymore.  $6,600 a year more.

Which is triple what the employees at The Sharm El Sheikh resorts get.

I actually did research into the minimum wages of resort workers in Arab vacation spots for this. Average wages are: Sharm El Sheikh ($2,000/year), West Bank/Dead Sea ($5,900), Doha ($6,600), and Dubai ($9,800). 

I was surprised to learn West Bank resort workers make about the same as Doha resort workers.

I think they'll swear allegiance to the Bank of Oil Investment in no time with better jobs. 

What follows would be a Palestine government centered on doing international business above Jihad things, and then Gaza stays Arab and Israel doesnt have to babysit the angry children of Iranian propaganda anymore.

Dubai-based venture capital could save the world?

As long as investment doesnt go too crazy, so if they dont let The Saudi Crown Prince think up the plan, I think theyll do better with budget.
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(09-02-2025, 07:35 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: If you bring in an Emirate contractor to offer jobs starting at $550/month USD.  All of a sudden the Western compatible versions of Islamic society gave them MORE than Hamas EVER did. Enough to not be angry anymore.  $6,600 a year more.

And how much would it take for you to be happy living under Sharia Law? $6600 a year? $10000?

I think if they wanted to integrated into "Western compatible" societies, that option has been open. Israel's right there. The residual that's been squeezed into Gaza and the West Bank are exactly those who do not want to live in that type of society, or whose land has been sized from them. Is that acceptable?
Question about the 2 billion with a remainder of Jihad...

Why doesnt Saudi Arabia want them? Jordan? Egypt? Anywhere with oil money?  Where are they beyond calling it genocide? Where are they? Blowing up iranian missiles entering their airspace?  Why just condemnation and aid?

Their muslim brotherhood is Atlas shrugging now. A minority of expression. Sorry they all filtered into Sharia Law Shangri La, but it could be the world unofficially rolling their caliphate ways into smaller and smaller pockets and into the annals of history... (Like, No! DONT! Well, okay...") even as Islam expands its numbers more than any other religion. 

The Islamic Revolution mindset has been replaced by rapid verticle expansion to lofty entrepreneurial heights in the last quarter century. At least by its worldly leaders. Islam is gentrifying. They want high rises and organic markets too, only theirs will have halal specifications..

Gaza doesn't even speak for the majority of Islam anymore... They're now just the Iranian puppet exclave that screwed over The Saudis gaining Al Aqsa guardianship and recognizing Israel soveirgnty. 

I think of it like they're not getting evicted, they're getting less despotic landlords. By any means necessary. 

It's still gonna be called Palestine and 99% Islam, only after they will brand everything with ads for "Ethihad," "Fly Emirates," or even "Qatar Airlines."

They won't say it, but i think everyone important is on board pushing towards that objective.
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