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Israel approves plan to seize all of Gaza
#71
(08-08-2025, 08:55 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: That is an interesting web site! " Timeless Myths: 25 years of storytelling"

They've got a little bit of everything. Browsing it now. Thumbup


Edit: Cool here is his YouTube channel it's got King Arthur and Atlantis and all kinds of stuff!
https://www.youtube.com/@calebhowells1116/videos

Okay sorry off topic.


No.

Interesting isn't it...timeless myths. So we can take from that article that Israel's enemies are mythological in reality but real in the regime's reality, right?
"The only journey is the one within."
#72
Well that may be reading in to it a little bit but I do think they are full of lies!

Edit: Not the King Arthur stuff that seems cool haha
#73
(08-08-2025, 09:02 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Well that may be reading in to it a little bit but I do think they are full of lies!

Edit: Not the King Arthur stuff that seems cool haha

Yeah, it makes one wonder what is a myth and what is reality, such as King Arthur.

'Medieval' King Arthur site is 4,000 years older than we thought | Live Science
"The only journey is the one within."
#74
(05-05-2025, 02:06 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: The only innocent Gazans are those under 8 years old. 
After that .. they are all of one mind and one purpose and are guilty.

Do you have any idea how psychotic you sound? Seek help!
#75
Good.

I'm glad Israel is doing this.
#76
(05-05-2025, 10:13 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: From Sky News:

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-approv...y-13362138

What do you think? Will this decrease the violence and lead to a more stable Middle East? Was land capture the goal all along? Or is it more complex than that?

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...-62-56.jpg]

Found this image claiming that's what the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent:

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...6501a0.jpg]

And I am wondering what Egypt's reaction to this will be?

Im going to go with it's probably more complicated than just "take the land and things will calm down."

Capturing all of Gaza and holding it long-term might reduce Hamas ability to operate.

But it's almost certain to cause more displacement, human misery, resentment, and suffering.

That kind of pressure tends to fuel radicalisation and feed the next generation instead of ending it.

It would shift the power dynamics, but it's unlikely to magically end the violence anytime soon.

And could easily make the long-term situation even more unstable.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#77
(05-05-2025, 02:06 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: The only innocent Gazans are those under 8 years old. 
After that .. they are all of one mind and one purpose and are guilty.

Dont you hold back now, tell us all how you really feel?

The only thing the majority of those poor sods are guilty of is existence.
 
Collective punishment is immoral.

Never mind illegal under international law.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#78
(08-08-2025, 10:31 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Im going to go with it's probably more complicated than just "take the land and things will calm down."

Capturing all of Gaza and holding it long-term might reduce Hamas ability to operate.

But it's almost certain to cause more displacement, human misery, resentment, and suffering.

That kind of pressure tends to fuel radicalisation and feed the next generation instead of ending it.

It would shift the power dynamics, but it's unlikely to magically end the violence anytime soon.

And could easily make the long-term situation even more unstable.


Interesting take.
Hamas and their supporters have ruined Gaza.
Hamas has been in charge for decades now and one could argue Gaza is the worst it’s even been.
I don’t see how removing Hamas would make things worse for any so called “innocent” palestinians living there.
Logic is with Hamas gone, Gaza is better.
#79
(08-08-2025, 11:12 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Interesting take.
Hamas and their supporters have ruined Gaza.
Hamas has been in charge for decades now and one could argue Gaza is the worst it’s even been.
I don’t see how removing Hamas would make things worse for any so called “innocent” palestinians living there.
Logic is with Hamas gone, Gaza is better.

Let's be clear, i think Hamas are terrorist scum, but history shows it's not that simple.

When Hamas falls, there will be power vacuums, which will cause chaos.

And it will be the civilians who suffer the most.

No two ways about it, military actions to remove Hamas, causes huge destruction, meaning even more displaced families.

Removing them simply isn't a magic fix.

Real improvement needs political solutions, rebuilding, and protection of the people's rights.

Otherwise, "better" simply turns into even more pain.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#80
(08-08-2025, 11:26 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Let's be clear, i think Hamas are terrorist scum, but history shows it's not that simple.

When Hamas falls, there will be power vacuums, which will cause chaos.

And it will be the civilians who suffer the most.

No two ways about it, military actions to remove Hamas, causes huge destruction, meaning even more displaced families.

Removing them simply isn't a magic fix.

Real improvement needs political solutions, rebuilding, and protection of the people's rights.

Otherwise, "better" simply turns into even more pain.


Hamas was voted in by those people.
Instead of improving Gazan life, rebuilding and protecting their people they put up roadblocks to peace with their neighbors, hoarded all the food fuel water and resources for their jihad, destroyed infrastructure to manufacture weapons of terror, invaded their neighbor with 1000’s of rapists and brutal viscious murderers, and used hospitals, schools, and UN buildings as military outposts.
Removing Hamas can in no way make Gaza worse.



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