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(09-05-2025, 09:04 AM)andy06shake Wrote: If that constitutes personal proof for you, quintessentone i hope it brings you enormous peace of mind.
I would love that to happen to me.
As there are rather a few people i would like to see again.
Or simply have the privilege of one last conversation.
Unfortunately, it's a mere anecdote for the rest of us.
And not proof of an afterlife, as unfortunate as the case may be.
Sometimes proof manifesting in certain 'magic' unexplained ways just can't be explained nor denied.
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(09-03-2025, 06:03 AM)Sirius Wrote:
fyi this is - clairvoyance - see things
- clairaudience - hear things
- clairsentience - feel things
- claircognizance - know things
- clairgustance - taste things
- eclairs - french things
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(09-05-2025, 10:30 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: fyi this is- clairvoyance - see things
- clairaudience - hear things
- clairsentience - feel things
- claircognizance - know things
- clairgustance - taste things
- eclairs - french things
Eating eclairs sends me into another state of blissful being.
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(09-05-2025, 10:23 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Sometimes proof manifesting in certain 'magic' unexplained ways just can't be explained nor denied.
I think what you're getting at is that sometimes events line up in ways that feel like proof of something beyond coincidence or almost like magic.
Perspective, i suppose being the ticket.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-05-2025, 10:56 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I think what you're getting at is that sometimes events line up in ways that feel like proof of something beyond coincidence or almost like magic.
Perspective, i suppose being the ticket.
Perspective, yes, but also there being the inability to debunk it entirely by the scientific communities.
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"Recent studies suggest that consciousness may leave the body at death, with scientists like Dr. Stuart Hameroff proposing evidence of this phenomenon.
Life after death: New research suggests human consciousness may survive death - The Brighter Side of News
Perspective? EEG capturing proof?
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(09-05-2025, 11:06 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Perspective, yes, but also there being the inability to debunk it entirely by the scientific communities.
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"Recent studies suggest that consciousness may leave the body at death, with scientists like Dr. Stuart Hameroff proposing evidence of this phenomenon.
Life after death: New research suggests human consciousness may survive death - The Brighter Side of News
Perspective? EEG capturing proof?
Still not irrefutable proof of an afterlife as much as we would like it to be.
As to consciousness, well, let's say further study is most certainly required in that dept.
How it emerges, changes over time, or where it goes after we shuffle off our mortal coil.
Ever watch someone you love slowly go senile or succumb to the likes of dementia?
What happens when they die, if there is anything past this existence?
Do they get their facilities back, or do they keep going in the manner they have become?
Because if we are more than the sum of our parts, im just wondering what parts we get to keep, and which ones remain the same?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-05-2025, 11:11 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Still not irrefutable proof of an afterlife as much as we would like it to be.
As to consciousness, well, let's say further study is most certainly required in that dept.
How it emerges, changes over time, or where it goes after we shuffle off our mortal coil. 
See how these mysteries can't get entirely debunked?
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(09-05-2025, 11:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: See how these mysteries can't get entirely debunked?
Certainly an interesting topic to discuss.
But it's still actual proof we are after.
Most mysteries don't entirely get debunked, they just get explained to the point where the mystery loses force.
There is generally a little sliver of ambiguity, that let's part the mystery persist.
Hence the reason they are mysterious i suppose.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-05-2025, 11:23 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Certainly an interesting topic to discuss.
But it's still actual proof we are after.
Most mysteries don't entirely get debunked, they just get explained to the point where the mystery loses force.
There is generally a little sliver of ambiguity, that let's part the mystery persist.
Hence the reason they are mysterious i suppose. 
Also, now they are bringing quantum spookiness into it, and so it continues and evolves.
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(09-05-2025, 11:23 AM)andy06shake Wrote: But it's still actual proof we are after.
Not in this thread it isn't.
(09-03-2025, 06:03 AM)Sirius Wrote: What of the following do you think is possible
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