Heaven

[Roma]

The twilight between being asleep and awake is something that I am very interested in because it can be a doorway into other dimensions.

A place where consciousness dissolves in a way, and extraordinary perceptions can arise.

I'll share the story if you're interested. 

First, some background: all my dogs have been beagles and they've all been allowed to sleep in the bed with me.  After my first dog passed I rescued the little girl, and six months later, the boy.  In my bedroom was a low carpet and sometimes their nails would get caught in a loop and make a popping sound.

Anyway, as the story goes, I was drifting off to sleep when I heard the pop of a nail caught on the carpet.  It woke me and I lifted my head to see who it was.  I only saw the back half of the dog leave the room.  I looked down the to foot of the bed, wondering which one it was...and they were both there asleep.

At that point I jumped out of bed, turned on all the lights and searched the house.  As you can imagine I didn't find anything.  Well, nothing more than my two sleepy beagles wondering why I got out of bed.

I still don't know if I dreamed it or actually experienced something.

[Maxmars]

The twilight between being asleep and awake is something that I am very interested in because it can be a doorway into other dimensions.

A place where consciousness dissolves in a way, and extraordinary perceptions can arise.

I would be fascinated to actually understand why I fear that moment... maybe it's not fear... but I avoid it... I just can't sleep 'normally'.  Heavy sigh.  And it seems to be all in the "falling asleep" part...

[Ray1990]

I would be fascinated to actually understand why I fear that moment... maybe it's not fear... but I avoid it... I just can't sleep 'normally'.  Heavy sigh.  And it seems to be all in the "falling asleep" part...

A so called healthy mind/body should slip through without notice, most people most of the time don't remember that spot.

I've had problems with it in the past, because it's similar to the spot people chase with yoga nidra I find it can be very visual, sound hallucinations are common too and some people get exploding head syndrome... I love that name.

Decent sleep hygiene helps but if it's psychological I feel for ya since the work that needs doing becomes very personal and highly individualised. I can share a few tips etc if you like or pm you some, I'm sure I have little to offer though. I'm not exactly trained or educated on the topic.

[LightAngel]

I'll share the story if you're interested. 

First, some background: all my dogs have been beagles and they've all been allowed to sleep in the bed with me.  After my first dog passed I rescued the little girl, and six months later, the boy.  In my bedroom was a low carpet and sometimes their nails would get caught in a loop and make a popping sound.

Anyway, as the story goes, I was drifting off to sleep when I heard the pop of a nail caught on the carpet.  It woke me and I lifted my head to see who it was.  I only saw the back half of the dog leave the room.  I looked down the to foot of the bed, wondering which one it was...and they were both there asleep.

At that point I jumped out of bed, turned on all the lights and searched the house.  As you can imagine I didn't find anything.  Well, nothing more than my two sleepy beagles wondering why I got out of bed.

I still don't know if I dreamed it or actually experienced something.

Awesome story! 

[LightAngel]

This song is perfect for this topic so I have to share. 

[LightAngel]

I would be fascinated to actually understand why I fear that moment... maybe it's not fear... but I avoid it... I just can't sleep 'normally'.  Heavy sigh.  And it seems to be all in the "falling asleep" part...

Has it always been that way?

Or did the difficult things that have happened to you start it?

[Maxmars]

Has it always been that way?

Or did the difficult things that have happened to you start it?

Well... I'm kind of uncertain about sharing this .. but given that you asked directly...

Consider this a fabrication... which leans heavily into the truth.

This began when I was much younger... relatively speaking.

Some professionals can't really address the series of events (or is it one big event?) that made me what they called "hyper vigilant" - but oddly, I never felt consciously it was anything but a long torture session. One professional selected "hyper vigilance" to describe it... but I am not in perpetual fear or stress... I suppose that diagnosis will have to do.

Unfortunately, hyper vigilance is a 'fuzzy' idea... and many professionals lean on this kind of "loose diagnoses" to provide something other than a "we don't really know."

I can try to push intrusive concerns, and pains away from my thoughts, like any one can.  But even not dwelling on myself once the slip into that other consciousness begins... I snap awake like I was perpetually watching something that I cannot afford to look away from... again and again... over and over... until I get so flustered and frustrated that my anger and distress keeps me awake.

During the time of the "ordeal" (for lack of a more appropriate word) 

It was an extended period (weeks) where I kind of "kept someone alive" and set as my primary concern "removing them from danger, or eliminating that danger."

It was a success story... Afterwards.... I became ... troubled... "Sleep" was a surrender... "as if" I knew the minute I lost consciousness I would be thrust into some kind of hellscape...  but I know no such thing.

Frankly, I do sleep... I just have to "plan it" well, and "some aspect of me that I don't appear to have control over" has to agree.   

It becomes further an issue as I appear to have a displaced circadian rhythm...  It's a quandary...

But I confess... I kind of sympathize with certain stories of people who offer "Oh... I don't really 'sleep' per se" ... I get it.

I love cozy comfortable sleep... it's just more of a miracle to me, than to others.

The dreams however... those are either deeply intertwined with all this, or someone is trying to read me novels in my sleep... and apparently I am "living them" in my dreams...

[LightAngel]

I love cozy comfortable sleep... it's just more of a miracle to me, than to others.

Thank you for sharing this.


I hope one day you will get cozy comfortable sleep.

I have heard that long walks in nature can help, did you ever try that?  

[Maxmars]

Thank you for sharing this.


I hope one day you will get cozy comfortable sleep.

I have heard that long walks in nature can help, did you ever try that?  

Actually, regardless of the sleeping .. walking has always been 'good' for me... it clears my head... always a good thing.  I am mostly a 'walking man.'

I can and do 'lie down' and 'don't move'... I've practiced... a walk in the woods or park seems like a better rest overall than some sleep..,  but I'm still standing.

[Roma]

Actually, regardless of the sleeping .. walking has always been 'good' for me... it clears my head... always a good thing.  I am mostly a 'walking man.'

I can and do 'lie down' and 'don't move'... I've practiced... a walk in the woods or park seems like a better rest overall than some sleep..,  but I'm still standing.

Normally I would recommend a strong Belgian ale, or even glass of Mead.  

Other than that, have you tried playing some sort of ambient music in the background.  Perhaps even something that is recordings of  nature?