Heaven

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So now I am a witch. 

I guess you learn something new every day.

But if it makes you smile to call me a witch then go ahead.

Are you trolling dear medicon? 


You say that you don't believe in God, but he is your oldest and dearest friend, please explain that paradox to me so I won't have to guess.

Anyway, I am spiritual because I believe we all are energy, and that we come from God and we will also go back to God when we are ready. 

I did my best to explain this in a very easy way. 


If you aren't trolling and actually want to discuss the witch burning then I am all ears. 

It was madness what happened during the witch hunts, many innocent people were punished because others believed they were working with the Devil.

I don't think you are a Witch LightAngel, although that might be cool! Just having a bit of fun really. I think I like Withes anyway lol.

My answer does seem like a paradox but it's really quite simple. Once upon a time God touched me and I entered into a state of grace (for want of a better term). It took me a while to get over that and regard it as a momentary lapse of reason. So I am in denial. Despite that denial it sometimes comes out in things I write. I have written some beautiful things over the years all arising from that moment. I look for it in others when I ask questions.

I loosely describe myself as an old Jungian and I like all the esoteric stuff. I am well read in it all...sadly lol.

[LightAngel]

Are we saying our dear @LightAngel is a witch?  Is she made of wood, or does she weigh as much as a duck?

On a more serious note, the witch hunts is a subject I never really delved into.  Maybe that deserves another thread.

[LightAngel]

I don't think you are a Witch LightAngel, although that might be cool! Just having a bit of fun really. I think I like Withes anyway lol.

My answer does seem like a paradox but it's really quite simple. Once upon a time God touched me and I entered into a state of grace (for want of a better term). It took me a while to get over that and regard it as a momentary lapse of reason. So I am in denial. Despite that denial it sometimes comes out in things I write. I have written some beautiful things over the years all arising from that moment. I look for it in others when I ask questions.

I loosely describe myself as an old Jungian and I like all the esoteric stuff. I am well read in it all...sadly lol.

I knew you were having a bit of fun, so did I. 


But I need to know how God touched you? I mean, was it in a dream or did you have a vision?

What happened?

Did God help you when you really needed help?

I know there is something that we just can't explain, I get little signs all the time.

[midicon]

I knew you were having a bit of fun, so did I. 


But I need to know how God touched you? I mean, was it in a dream or did you have a vision?

What happened?

Did God help you when you really needed help?

I know there is something that we just can't explain, I get little signs all the time.

Sorry about the delay in replying LightAngel, I have been thinking about how best to respond. I didn't have a vision or a dream it was nothing like that. I chose my words deliberately, 

I don't think right here, right now is the place to talk about it for me. I was just answering your question as best I could. I liked the way I answered it. It was very honest. 

I should stay away from this type of thread!

[LightAngel]

Sorry about the delay in replying LightAngel, I have been thinking about how best to respond. I didn't have a vision or a dream it was nothing like that. I chose my words deliberately, 

I don't think right here, right now is the place to talk about it for me. I was just answering your question as best I could. I liked the way I answered it. It was very honest. 

I should stay away from this type of thread!

I am not here all the time, so you don't need to apologize. I sometimes don't reply to people for a week or more. I don't want to stress about my online activities.

Anyway, I asked you this because I wonder if you ever had dreams or visions that came true - because I did.

Most of the time it is just everyday happy things - for example, like meeting an old friend in a dream (a friend I didn't see since childhood), and then meeting the person the next day wearing the same outfit that I dreamt about.

Other times, it is more serious things that I do not want to share in a public forum.

It is almost like I time travel sometimes when I sleep, and I know that I am not the only one with these kinds of experiences.

[Roma]

I am not here all the time, so you don't need to apologize. I sometimes don't reply to people for a week or more. I don't want to stress about my online activities.

Anyway, I asked you this because I wonder if you ever had dreams or visions that came true - because I did.

Most of the time it is just everyday happy things - for example, like meeting an old friend in a dream (a friend I didn't see since childhood), and then meeting the person the next day wearing the same outfit that I dreamt about.

Other times, it is more serious things that I do not want to share in a public forum.

It is almost like I time travel sometimes when I sleep, and I know that I am not the only one with these kinds of experiences.

Have you ever dreamed of a departed loved one?  I've experienced this, although sometimes they are just dreams and other times it feels like something more.

[Ray1990]

I don't think you are a Witch LightAngel, although that might be cool! Just having a bit of fun really. I think I like Withes anyway lol.

My answer does seem like a paradox but it's really quite simple. Once upon a time God touched me and I entered into a state of grace (for want of a better term). It took me a while to get over that and regard it as a momentary lapse of reason. So I am in denial. Despite that denial it sometimes comes out in things I write. I have written some beautiful things over the years all arising from that moment. I look for it in others when I ask questions.

I loosely describe myself as an old Jungian and I like all the esoteric stuff. I am well read in it all...sadly lol.

A synergy of sorts? Like a heavy dose of pronoia but sweetened with actual vanilla extract... Tastes normal.

I licked a wallpaper like that once. It was probably the peak of my perception. That's the thing about perception though, just like moods or even memories it involves an element of choice.

Idk, might be way off on that one. Heaven to me always seemed like a torrential flow of cooperation where not 1 molecule disagreed with the ambition. Some sort of happy ever after always sounded like heavy ever after to me, a boring pointless cloud that never rains but only reigns over all the poor sods who don't even have the sun anymore when it's oh-so perfectness comes around to remind them it's almost certainly not for you.

Just musing...

[LightAngel]

Have you ever dreamed of a departed loved one?  I've experienced this, although sometimes they are just dreams and other times it feels like something more.

Yes, and also from pets.  

Most of the time I just have normal dreams, but you can feel it right away if it isn't a normal dream - you just know! 

If you doubt, then it was probably just a normal dream.

It is hard to explain this with words - you have to experience it yourself to understand because it feels profoundly different from ordinary dreaming.

Wouldn't you say?

I think dreams can be a bridge between us and those who have passed away.

[Ray1990]

Yes, and also from pets.  

Most of the time I just have normal dreams, but you can feel it right away if it isn't a normal dream - you just know! 

If you doubt, then it was probably just a normal dream.

It is hard to explain this with words - you have to experience it yourself to understand because it feels profoundly different from ordinary dreaming.

Wouldn't you say?

I think dreams can be a bridge between us and those who have passed away.

If I may, I'll share some of the insights to my own dreams like that.

Dreams of passed ones that feel different always occur (for me) at the hypnopompic stage of sleep (exiting) which adds to the lucidity of the experience, which I do find highly interesting since hypnagogic/hypnopompic parts of sleep "the magic" happens or hallucinations if we must get technical, an area of neither sleep nor awake which would strongly suggest much more of the brain is being used than normal sleeping/dreaming. It's the place some people practice meditation techniques to reach which isn't the simplest of practices, apparently.

My own experiences with that place is there's never any sounds if you try to talk to them, there's conversation but it's as if someone pressed mute, that could just be my own experiences and I haven't explored that angle all that much, it's an interesting place though, one can read which isn't possible in normal dreams. There's other ways to communicate too, like pointing to a map or certain lines in a book etc. I've also found that there's an acute sense of emotions within that state which is the opposite of the hypnagogic stage of sleep which is why some practicing meditation aim for that space since it's absolute peace that feels completely detached from reality and experience.

As I write this I'm reminded of a couple of times I've gained "super lucidity" during normal dreams but I haven't exactly had enough experience with that, it has the same feel as that waking up spot though and generally the experience is over between 30-90 seconds, I assume this is our waking brains kicking into gear. Generally though what I wrote above is the rule without some sort of intervention such as initiating lucid dreaming. Some people claim one can navigate within that state of mind which I can't disagree with when I consider my own experiences.

I do leave my book open towards all this given my own experiences, to oversimplify, mental illness is less about the experience and more about how you react to it and that neither asleep nor awake place is basically the same parts of the brain firing as would be with someone actually hallucinating in waking life, the place itself is completely normal and so are the hallucinations within that zone... So it's not a judgement thing on my part, unless I'm judging myself that is lol. My own inroads to learning about all this started at an extremely young age and I strongly suspect it's mostly a memory thing, most people's memory sucks.

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