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[FlyersFan]

Trump said he would end all wars. He has not. He is doing the opposite.

He is not doing the opposite.   Some he's stopped.   Russia/Ukraine he hasn't.  
His statement was typical Trump bloviating.
That's IRRELEVANT to what I said.   You are deflecting.

We absolutely can bring Biden in on the discussions of the Ukraine/Russia war.
He was POTUS when it broke out.  
He was POTUS for years while it raged on.
He was played by Putin and Zelenskyy both.
He is part of the discussion .. like it or not.
And clearly you don't like it.

[FlyersFan]

.... you don't hold Trump accountable for stopping Israel's war with it's neighbors.

He did.
Even though it's a very different situation.
And it's IRRELEVANT to the thread discussion.
Nice try though.  

[quintessentone]

He is not doing the opposite.   Some he's stopped.   Russia/Ukraine he hasn't.  
His statement was typical Trump bloviating.
That's IRRELEVANT to what I said.   You are deflecting.

We absolutely can bring Biden in on the discussions of the Ukraine/Russia war.
He was POTUS when it broke out.  
He was POTUS for years while it raged on.
He was played by Putin and Zelenskyy both.
He is part of the discussion .. like it or not.
And clearly you don't like it.

That's the only true thing you've ever said to me, that what you said is irrelevant and how you always deflect from confrontation by telling others they are off topic when you started the off topic nonsense. You are such a joke and really not worth replying to with any seriousness and that there is from self-reflection as to why the hell I bother replying to you in the first place.

[FlyersFan]

... i'd say that trump is as full of shit on this as he is on everything else.

True.    But the poster was whining about Trump while giving Biden a free pass.   Biden was played by both Putin and Zelenskyy.   The war started while Biden was POTUS and it raged for years while Biden was POTUS.   He is part of the discussion.

[quintessentone]

True.    But the poster was whining about Trump while giving Biden a free pass.   Biden was played by both Putin and Zelenskyy.   The war started while Biden was POTUS and it raged for years while Biden was POTUS.   He is part of the discussion.

I was pointing out the double standards by which some members here judge Trump vs. Biden in all things and won't accept any verified facts. You are pushing bullshit here.

[FlyersFan]

What you do is push MAGA bullshit and ignorance.

 ... says the person who pushes WOKE and left wing bullshit and ignorance ... campaigns it all day every day.   No self reflection.

Wanna' address the topic instead of off topic personal insults ... which you falsely claim you don't ever do.

[FlyersFan]

Wrong. Relevant when Biden's actions are scrutinized but Trump's aren't for the same reasons. 

Wrong.  Irrelevant.  Israel is not the topic.   

The Russia/Ukraine war broke out while Biden was POTUS.  It raged for years while Biden was POTUS.   For someone to say that Trump is crap on this but that Biden wasn't is just partisan bullshit.   Putin is playing Trump.   But Putin and Zelenskyy both played Biden.    That's relevant.

[quintessentone]

 ... says the person who pushes WOKE and left wing bullshit and ignorance ... campaigns it all day every day.   No self reflection.

Wanna' address the topic instead of off topic personal insults ... which you falsely claim you don't ever do.

I join threads and stay on topic and post facts and verified sources which is rejected by the MAGA here. So be it. But I am free to post the facts and counteract the disinformation/misinformation/propaganda that others spew here without supporting it with verifiable facts/sources. If you or anyone does not want to look at it press your 'ignore' button.

I said I give it back as good as I get, and I never start the insults, but you do. Get it?

[FlyersFan]

That's the only true thing you've ever said to me, ...

Everything I say is true.   You are too indoctrinated and too busy campaigning left wing woke politics to be able to see straight.   All day every day ... it's an illness.

[quintessentone]

Everything I say is true.   You are too indoctrinated and too busy campaigning left wing woke politics to be able to see straight.   All day every day ... it's an illness.

If saying that members here should hold both Trump and Biden to the same standards for the same actions or non-actions is left wing woke then you are the one with the problem. You and others are here every day, too so what are you saying, everyone here has an illness?