Elon Musk and Trump discuss a “DOGE tax refund to every taxpayer

[putnam6]

Elon Musk and Trump discuss a “DOGE tax refund to every taxpayer

It will interesting to see how much they are talking about here...

Nick Sortor


#BREAKING: Elon Musk says he and the President will be discussing a “DOGE dividend,” which will be a tax refund sent to EVERY taxpayer This would be funded exclusively with a portion of total savings delivered by DOGE. Looks like hard-working taxpayers will receive a refund for much of the money stolen from us by corrupt organizations like USAID

[Mantiss2021]

Elon Musk and Trump discuss a “DOGE tax refund to every taxpayer

It will interesting to see how much they are talking about here...

What "Uncle Sugar" pretends to give with one hand, he more than takes away with the other!

[UltraBudgie]

Nah, we're good. They should put it in the bank, or buy something nice for themselves.

[putnam6]

Nah I disagree when you give that many people a little unexpected bump, they spend it in thier communities and the sheer numbers can make a difference.

[guyfriday]

Nah I disagree when you give that many people a little unexpected bump, they spend it in thier communities and the sheer numbers can make a difference.

During the Obama years we had that cash give a way to take peoples minds off the economy. The money came from our pockets, but this time the money was already there but it will be transferred from scams and fraud to communities building the local economies.

[putnam6]

I'll take anybody's  5 grand and put it into savings if nobody wants it 

[Byrd]

So they're laying off a quarter of a million people (225,000 https://apnews.com/article/doge-firings-...0c28652654) ... and splitting their salaries with the approximately 270 million adults in the us (assuming they can find them... they probably won't send to the homeless or people in nursing homes or in prison)?

Uhm...yeah.  

Mind you, I can see them doing that to generate "good will" and to have something to crow about, but it's more performance than anything else.  Neither are economists and both have a string of failed businesses, yet see themselves as hugely successful.  (Elon's record in this isn't quite as impressive as Trump's: https://www.webopedia.com/technology/elo...-failures/)

Rather than spend the money on infrastructure or support for when hurricane relief is needed (this will apparently be shuffled off to the states... good luck with that one, Louisiana-Alabama-Mississippi) or improving delivery systems (railroads could use upgrades) they'll toss it on one-time "circus and bread" performances to make themselves look good.

I don't think this will preserve their majority in Congress in 2026.

[UltraBudgie]

This ignores the fact that money is liquid. Money is money, whether it is accounted for by uncovering graft, eliminating extraneous positions, or (if you're the federal government) simply printing it out of thin air.

This proposal is exactly equivalent to Congress simply passing a tax clawback, without having to justify it by "we found the money under the mattress". That's simply a PR stunt.

Just "use" the money by not borrowing as much each year to fund the federal budget deficit. This stunt is like someone yelling "yahoo! I'm rich!" and giving all their friends $100 and buying everyone rounds of drinks, and then you find out they became "rich" by getting a $10,000 cash advance from their credit card.

There's no "surplus money" without an overall budget surplus. Grow up.


Edit: Autocorrect wrote "budget defecate" instead of "budget deficit", but perhaps that wasn't really an error.

[putnam6]

So they're laying off a quarter of a million people (225,000 https://apnews.com/article/doge-firings-...0c28652654) ... and splitting their salaries with the approximately 270 million adults in the us (assuming they can find them... they probably won't send to the homeless or people in nursing homes or in prison)?

Uhm...yeah.  

Mind you, I can see them doing that to generate "good will" and to have something to crow about, but it's more performance than anything else.  Neither are economists and both have a string of failed businesses, yet see themselves as hugely successful.  (Elon's record in this isn't quite as impressive as Trump's: https://www.webopedia.com/technology/elo...-failures/)

Rather than spend the money on infrastructure or support for when hurricane relief is needed (this will apparently be shuffled off to the states... good luck with that one, Louisiana-Alabama-Mississippi) or improving delivery systems (railroads could use upgrades) they'll toss it on one-time "circus and bread" performances to make themselves look good.

I don't think this will preserve their majority in Congress in 2026.

Do you mean to spend it on infrastructure like these azzhats did?



Or send 2 billion from the EPA to Stacey Abrams non-profit startup that has revenue of S100.00

[Orionthehunter]

I am seriously doubting the so called fraud savings are even accurate. What Elon told Trump about the age of people in social security system makes it sound like huge potential fraud but I did a less than one minute internet search yesterday about how many of these 100 something year olds were getting paid and read likely very few. I read experts said it might cost social security 9 million dollars to fix the database but the deceased people were highly unlikely to be getting paid anything. If the CEO doesn’t believe in confirming actual real numbers and goes off telling the President about inaccurate ages in the database without confirming payment numbers, I have absolutely no faith in the actual savings. It would be nice if they found billions and billions they could save but with reporting like this, I have serious doubts. I read Social Security system likely decided to save 9 million by not fixing the age database but there are highly likely payment system safeguards in place to prevent payments to deceased.

Elon if you hear this, confirm fraudulent payments are going out to deceased and collected by someone and add up those numbers please. Stop telling the President about huge potential fraud without confirmation. I’d love it if true that we could save that much but if it’s merely a 9 million expense to fix database errors, that is different. I also read the quoted 50 million going to Gaza was not going to the war zone Gaza but a province or area in Africa so that information was not corrected by mainstream news either. I will add any savings found in Social Security system needs to stay in it to pay benefits for future retirees not the general public. It was generation X that voted to cut out all the crap we have been hearing about. Please keep social security healthy.