Disclosure has begun

[guyfriday]

And what exactly is wrong with a demon? 

The original meaning was learned one, teacher, smart person. The organized religion leaders changed the meaning to evil being. They did not want information spread and only the clergy were allowed to read the Bible at the time.

When hiding information, many lies are told. Like this information release being new material.

You've stated this before and as I countered before as well. As seen here

Where did you get this information? 

Also with this new information coming out, it's becoming more clear, or at least it should be by now, that the global intelligence community has been messing around with stuff that they have zero understanding of and have place all of us, everyone on Earth, in danger.

[BeyondKnowledge]

You've stated this before and as I countered before as well. As seen here

Where did you get this information? 

Also with this new information coming out, it's becoming more clear, or at least it should be by now, that the global intelligence community has been messing around with stuff that they have zero understanding of and have place all of us, everyone on Earth, in danger.

Yes, I will admit they have been pretty much playing with fire they don't understand. They are trying to cover that fact up by releasing a lot of useless and old information in a much higher volume then admitting to and actually showing useful evidence. 

Again, they are playing the magician in these releases. Throwing out a lot of misdirection and leaving out the secrets, all while letting the audience draw the wrong conclusion by their imagination.

And about the demons, go back to the origin of that word in ancient Greek. I do believe there is something we precieve as evil spirits but demon is not the word for them. Just as warlock is not what male witches are called. Warlock means coven breaker or deceiver. A male which is still a witch.

[Astyanax]

This is all important because the galactic government did not want that information released or even known. The entire book series is about a conspiracy to stop the spread of knowledge up to trying to destroy the whole universe. 

It's a work of fiction, which happens to contain a – hypothetical but valid – example of a reason why aliens might destroy us in the process of following some agenda of their own. The validity of the example has nothing to do with the plot of the story. Nor does the plot provide any justification for the belief that governments have been hiding the truth about UFOs from the public. There is no justification for the latter belief that I can see.

 Not a very useful reply to my post, I fear. Would you care to respond to the actual points I made?

[ArMaP]

Yes, I will admit they have been pretty much playing with fire they don't understand. They are trying to cover that fact up by releasing a lot of useless and old information in a much higher volume then admitting to and actually showing useful evidence. 

Again, they are playing the magician in these releases. Throwing out a lot of misdirection and leaving out the secrets, all while letting the audience draw the wrong conclusion by their imagination.

In Portugal we have a saying, "you fool me with the truth", as we can fool other people by saying the truth in a way that makes them think we are saying something else.

[andy06shake]

Yes, I will admit they have been pretty much playing with fire they don't understand. They are trying to cover that fact up by releasing a lot of useless and old information in a much higher volume then admitting to and actually showing useful evidence. 

Again, they are playing the magician in these releases. Throwing out a lot of misdirection and leaving out the secrets, all while letting the audience draw the wrong conclusion by their imagination.

And about the demons, go back to the origin of that word in ancient Greek. I do believe there is something we precieve as evil spirits but demon is not the word for them. Just as warlock is not what male witches are called. Warlock means coven breaker or deceiver. A male which is still a witch.

I suppose alien intelligence could be so different from our own that our predictions fail completely.

Their motives might not even map onto things we understand like conquest or diplomacy. 

We can't predict alien behaviour because every idea we have comes from human experience.

Assigning labels like demon is just anthropomorphisation...

[quintessentone]

Are you equating technological evolution with moral advancement?

Why should we expect their ideas of right and wrong to coincide with ours?

Why should we expect them to have ideas about right and wrong in the first place?
 

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Many UFO believers – and even some sceptics – believe something along the lines of, ‘If the aliens are advanced enough to cross the vast gulfs of space they’ll be similarly advanced morally too, and will therefore be good to us.’

The latter does not at all follow from the former. Even if it did, humanity from the aliens' point of view may be something akin to an infectious fungus or virus that – regrettably – needs to be exterminated for the good of the Cosmic Community. Even the Pope and the Dalai Lama and the High Mufti of al-Azhar don’t mind killing germs.

Other UFO believers – and even some sceptics – believe that if aliens are technologically advanced enough to travel interstellar distances, they would have no need of anything they could extract from us. Again, this is a very foolish belief, which Douglas Adams, in the first few pages of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, easily disposes of. Why, in that story, is Earth doomed? Because aliens have decided to build an ‘interstellar hyperspace bypass’ through our region of the Galaxy and our planet simply happens to be in the way... 

Hyperspace bypasses may not exist, but the danger that we may be eliminated in the course of some alien economic project, war, religious rite, work of art or practical joke certainly does – if aliens do in fact exist, as we have agreed.

The best answer to Enrico Fermi’s famous question, ‘where are they?’ is, ‘they’re hiding.’ And if we were truly intelligent, we’d be hiding too.

I can only report from my contact with the tall greys and they are here to help or rather save us and themselves through their hybrid programs. As for the other alien species which I have had no contact with, as far as I know, who knows?

Would one not assume if these numerous alien species have advanced technology and with evil intent, would have already taken what they wanted from us or our planet and/or destroyed us first to be able to get at resources or whatever so as to eliminate anything in their way?

[ArMaP]

Would one not assume if these numerous alien species have advanced technology and with evil intent, would have already taken what they wanted from us or our planet and/or destroyed us first to be able to get at resources or whatever so as to eliminate anything in their way?

Unless we are the resources they want.

Imagine they need our emotions, for example. That would be a good reason to keep us alive and in conflict.

[andy06shake]

Unless we are the resources they want.

Imagine they need our emotions, for example. That would be a good reason to keep us alive and in conflict.

Thats what the archons allegedly feed upon...

[quintessentone]

Unless we are the resources they want.

Imagine they need our emotions, for example. That would be a good reason to keep us alive and in conflict.

Could be, but why would they actually need or what would they do with our now environmentally poisoned/mixed up chemical/brain dysfunction/unregulated emotions/confusion?

Now, them needing our DNA to help themselves and perhaps help us advance intellectually/emotionally, is more of a reasonable theory, to me. Having said that, if they have been here for millions of years, they most likely have been collecting/tweaking their and our DNA, so maybe it is just an ongoing project. Maybe there are complications that they are still working on because of us being environmentally poisoned. Or maybe they just don't understand emotions at all, which is what I think is the case, and they simply can't crack the code. Theories only prevail without disclosure.

If we are under their control and to be used for their purposes, why would they allow us to poison ourselves, warmonger, and create weapons of mass destruction so as to destroy ourselves? Would they not want to protect their invested interests?

[Astyanax]

Could be, but why would they actually need or what would they do with our now environmentally poisoned/mixed up chemical/brain dysfunction/unregulated emotions/confusion?

Why should that be a consideration for any hypothetical aliens pursuing their own interests in our solar system or nearby? Perhaps they'll want to turn Alpha Centauri into a supernova for some reason. Why would they concern themselves with us?
 

Now, them needing our DNA to help themselves and perhaps help us advance intellectually/emotionally, is more of a reasonable theory, to me.

I really can't see where this is coming from. Why should they want our DNA? Would they even have DNA themselves? Would they even be made up of cells? Would they even have what we'd call a biology? 

Have you heard of von Neumann machines?
 

Having said that, if they have been here for millions of years...

Have they? We have no evidence that they have ever been here at all.
 

they most likely have been collecting/tweaking their and our DNA, so maybe it is just an ongoing project. Maybe there are complications that they are still working on because of us being environmentally poisoned. Or maybe they just don't understand emotions at all, which is what I think is the case, and they simply can't crack the code. Theories only prevails without disclosure.

If we are under their control and to be used for their purposes, why would they allow us to poison ourselves, warmonger, and create weapons of mass destruction so as to destroy ourselves? Would they not want to protect their invested interests?

You're assuming the long-term presence on Earth of aliens from outer space. I'm not, I'm afraid.

There are mysterious things in the sky. That's about all we know.