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(09-16-2025, 09:54 AM)IllusionOfChoice Wrote: At the end of the day, words are air. I don't think being shot in front of your children because you speak your mind is ever justified. The blatant hypocrisy from a side pushing gun control with this act of barbarism is disgusting.
Well said.
I can’t help but notice that same hypocrisy.
Before their protected trans class started killing people they wanted to take everyone’s guns away.
Now they’ll fight for their 2nd amendment, because trans.
Blatant hypocrisy.
They’ve been called out for it before and deny it everytime.
Fun fact: That group Armed Queers SLC, the same group being investigated now because of Charlie’s murder, is led by a guy named Ermyia “Connor” Fanaeian, who thinks he’s a she.
That group says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism and are not shy of posting photos with their weapons.
Their leader Connor, ironically, co-founded the Utah chapter of March for Our Lives, which is an anti-gun group led by the notorious anti-gun nutter David Hogg.
They want their guns, but don’t want you to have yours.
What do you think happens to you if they get their wish?
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(09-16-2025, 10:19 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Where is your source that most people don't understand the existing gun laws? You need to back up your claims, starting now.
Where is your source that "the right are pushing for more emotionally immature lunatics to be able to carry guns wherever they want."? I'm sure you have one
They are not claims, it is fact that I see every day.
The ex director of the ATF could not disassemble a simple Glock.
Most people don't understand that if you live in a state where it is illegal to purchase a certain firearm, if you travel to another state to do so, that is a felony.
I mean FFS, most people don't even know what an "assault weapon" even is. Or what the AR in AR15 stands for.
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09-16-2025, 10:28 AM
This post was last modified: 09-16-2025, 11:16 AM by Bootless. 
(09-16-2025, 08:04 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: It's not cherry picking, give me one good example of an okay sentence in which to call someone a Nazi.
Go ahead, I will wait
Time magazine, SEPTEMBER 9, 1935: Praise for Nazis
There was a World Population Congress in Berlin. A leading American Eugenicist spoke.
Quote:Long before Adolf Hitler was anybody, Dr. Campbell, though too polite to wound racial sensibilities by calling names, was unobtrusively teaching that if “Americans,” as that term is generally understood, do not speed up their birth rate, the result after a few more generations will be to leave control of their country in the hands of some more pushing race.
Then:
Quote: Even more bluntly [ German ] Minister of Interior Frick said that during the War [ WWI ], while the best men of all embattled nations were at the front, “an increased facility of reproducing themselves was afforded to the weaklings.” Thus the present generation of post-War youth is to be regarded generally askance, thinks Dr. Frick, and Nazi eugenists’ plans for breeding Germans like prize cattle are especially vital. In prompt agreement, Dr. Knud A. Wieth-Knudsen, Norway’s eugenist at the Congress, cried: “The intellectual currents which have dominated Scandinavian countries for the past 50 years—namely Liberalism, Radicalism and Feminism—are to blame for the decreasing birth rate in Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Improvement can only be expected from new currents, such as the Nazi!”
Seems to be praise for Nazi way of thinking. Nazi to American and European eugenicists seemed a quite good thing.
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I just thought of a joke:
A Neo-Nazi goes to a Neo-Nazi club meeting somewhere in America.
He says to a fellow "You Nazi!"
The fellow replies: "Why thank you comrade."
Then BOOM! The first guy knocks the other guy down with a tremendous punch to the face. "Don't call me a Commie. I'm not anyone's comrade!!!"
The guy on the floor, wiping the blood off his mouth says, "Even the Third Reich soldiers were comrades in arms."
The first guy says, "Well okay then, I guess, but watch your language."
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09-16-2025, 10:34 AM
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(09-16-2025, 10:20 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Uniting the left and right begins within. Societal strife is a projection of unresolved internal conflict in the populace. If you only know how to express your love in terms of your hate, maybe that's a problem.
The populace's strife is not being addressed by your government to make better the lives of the working and middle class and what with the government causing more division and hardship using deflection and getting into more wars and giving less back to the populace all the while using taxpayer dollars.
A third of Americans are too distracted working two jobs to really pay attention to how they are being scammed and ripped off.
More Than a Third of Americans Have Second Jobs: ‘It’s Be... - Newsweek
So, I have to say that uniting the left and right lies with your government removing strife from 'all' the people and to not fan the flames of hate for 'them' - 'the other side'.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-16-2025, 10:34 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The populace's strife is not being addressed by your government to make better the lives of the working and middle class and what with the government causing more division and hardship using deflection and getting into more wars and giving less back to the populace all the while using taxpayer dollars.
A third of Americans are too distracted working two jobs to really pay attention to how they are being scammed and ripped off.
More Than a Third of Americans Have Second Jobs: ‘It’s Be... - Newsweek
So, I have to say that uniting the left and right lies with your government removing strife from 'all' the people and to not fan the flames of hate for 'them' - 'the other side'.
So? What's it matter to you?
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(09-16-2025, 10:36 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: So? What's it matter to you?
Why should it not matter to me?
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-16-2025, 10:40 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Why should it not matter to me?
Okay. Cool cool cool. Back to topic at hand, then.
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(09-16-2025, 09:51 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I was referring to the Trump government may take action to end free speech and people's rights on the middle and left or where any questioning or dissent is to be found. I will keep an eye out for this.
There is some pushback from the right.
AG Bondi faces backlash from conservatives after threatening to go after 'hate speech'
Quote:Attorney General Pam Bondi on Monday said the federal government will now crack down on comments it considers to be hate speech, saying on a podcast 'We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech.' Many conservatives criticized Bondi's remarks.
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09-16-2025, 10:56 AM
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(09-16-2025, 10:28 AM)Bootless Wrote: Time magazine, SEPTEMBER 9, 1935: Praise for Nazis
There was a World Population Congress in Berlin. A leading American Eugenicist spoke.
Then:
Seems to be praise for Nazi way of thinking. Nazi to European eugenicists seemed a quite good thing.
Did you read the core message of that article?
I will help you, it's all about white people having more babies so the "others" don't push ahead.
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"Dr. Campbell, a Manhattan Social Registrite, put a fashionable practice behind him to devote his full time to eugenics. Long before Adolf Hitler was anybody, Dr. Campbell, though too polite to wound racial sensibilities by calling names, was unobtrusively teaching that if “Americans,” as that term is generally understood, do not speed up their birth rate, the result after a few more generations will be to leave control of their country in the hands of some more pushing race."
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Charlie Kirk was pushing the same rhetoric in at least this one idea and insulting and demeaning women who didn't want a traditional husband/wife/children scenario saying basically they then are of no value to society.
We see with Kirk's shooter who had the mother/father, Christian upbringing, MAGA upbringing that that is not a safeguard to having healthy and happy children who will never go out and murder someone because they want to and because of easy access to guns.
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See how the two ideologies are the same when we look closer at the White Christian Nationalist ideology?
I am all for the traditional family unit but I am also for the government helping single mothers and fathers, or all parents, to have the resources to raise happy and healthy children, but, no, Trump is taking away resources.
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Then we can look at the other underlying messages:
"The white Christian ideology on women having babies is often intertwined with various societal views and policies.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-16-2025, 10:56 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Did you read the core message of that article? No?
I will help you, it's all about white people having more babies so the "others" don't push ahead.
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"Dr. Campbell, a Manhattan Social Registrite, put a fashionable practice behind him to devote his full time to eugenics. Long before Adolf Hitler was anybody, Dr. Campbell, though too polite to wound racial sensibilities by calling names, was unobtrusively teaching that if “Americans,” as that term is generally understood, do not speed up their birth rate, the result after a few more generations will be to leave control of their country in the hands of some more pushing race."
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Charlie Kirk was pushing the same rhetoric in at least this one idea and insulting and demeaning women who didn't want a traditional husband/wife/children scenario saying basically they then are of no value to society.
We see with Kirk's shooter who had the mother/father, Christian upbringing, MAGA upbringing that that is not a safeguard to having healthy and happy children who will never go out and murder someone because they want to and because of easy access to guns.
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See how the two ideologies are the same when we look closer at the White Christian Nationalist ideology?
I am all for the traditional family unit but I am also for the government helping single mothers and fathers, or all parents, to have the resources to raise happy and healthy children, but, no, Trump is taking away resources.
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Then we can look at the other underlying messages:
"The white Christian ideology on women having babies is often intertwined with various societal views and policies.
Charlie implored the black community to start raising their kids in a family with a mother and a father.
“Das rayciss”
Sure buddy.
You should really watch more Charlie videos instead of swallowing the garbage you’ve only been told.
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