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#91
(07-16-2025, 03:30 PM)sahgwa Wrote: For non man-made ones: 
My theory is that the orbs that are floating around are beaming some sort of EM to the stalks to bend them. I am not sure where the orbs come from or if they are sentient, or just a tool of someone else. 


What is your theory?


As in there are video of people actual making crop circles. Where you have what?  Innuendo and misrepresentation of what happens when plants are microwaved.  Do the plants used in crop circles even have joins like you need.  And what happens when you cook a joint segment in a microwave oven?  Does it bend?
#92
(07-16-2025, 03:49 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: As in there are video of people actual making crop circles. Where you have what?  Innuendo and misrepresentation of what happens when plants are microwaved.  Do the plants used in crop circles even have joins like you need.  And what happens when you cook a joint segment in a microwave oven?  Does it bend?

I am just going to say that I am sorry you view all of the articles links and even videos that other people and myself have posted as innuendo. Especially as they come from researchers with more credentials than myself. 
Have a nice daynight.
#93
(07-16-2025, 04:32 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I am just going to say that I am sorry you view all of the articles links and even videos that other people and myself have posted as innuendo. Especially as they come from researchers with more credentials than myself. 
Have a nice daynight.



What credentials?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#94
(07-16-2025, 04:40 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: What credentials?



Richard Taylor whose research I posted about, is a professor of Physics at the University of Oregon.
And Quintessentone posted research from MIT which is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 
More credentials than I have, and I presume other posters here have. 
I dont see the point in posting links if no one reads them.
#95
(07-16-2025, 03:30 PM)sahgwa Wrote: For non man-made ones: 
My theory is that the orbs that are floating around are beaming some sort of EM to the stalks to bend them. I am not sure where the orbs come from or if they are sentient, or just a tool of someone else. 


What is your theory?


I wrote a whole chapter about that. about 120 pages or so. My "conclusion", from what I could gather, the legitmate ones. Which could be 40 to 60% of them, are made in various manners. 
There was a clear pattern, before 1980 they were made with the presence of the UFOs. They were called UFO Nests. 
Then they got more and more sophisticated. Things changed in 1991 with the Alton barnes one. which became cover for the Led Zepplin album. 
So yeah, there are different accouts. To me the most common is like a force field they do. But at times they make it more "dramatic", for instance, they did one that was quite public, it was in front of Stonehenge, and it took 15 minutes. there was a fog, and after a while the thing was formed, I think it is called the Julia set. or something of the sort. I think this case is from 95, but you can easily find online about this. 
If you do want to learn more, I recomend, Freddy Silfa, Lucy Pringle, and Glickman, they are all top class read.
#96
(07-16-2025, 04:32 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I am just going to say that I am sorry you view all of the articles links and even videos that other people and myself have posted as innuendo. Especially as they come from researchers with more credentials than myself. 
Have a nice daynight.



There are whole books proclaiming flat earth.  I’ve even been told by flat earther solar eclipses are only possible on a flat earth.

Very similar to “these crop circles are only possible by aliens”.

Very silly arguments.

I’m sorry you don’t understand how microwaves actually interact with the cellulose of a plant and simply can’t result in the physics you need.  

I asked / posted something very simple.

As in there are video of people actual making crop circles. Where you have what?  Innuendo and misrepresentation of what happens when plants are microwaved.  Do the plants used in crop circles even have joins like you need.  And what happens when you cook a joint segment in a microwave oven?  Does it bend?


Is it false there are videos of people making crop circles?
#97
(07-17-2025, 05:47 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: There are whole books proclaiming flat earth.  I’ve even been told by flat earther solar eclipses are only possible on a flat earth.

Very similar to “these crop circles are only possible by aliens”.

Very silly arguments.

I’m sorry you don’t understand how microwaves actually interact with the cellulose of a plant and simply can’t result in the physics you need.  

I asked / posted something very simple.

As in there are video of people actual making crop circles. Where you have what?  Innuendo and misrepresentation of what happens when plants are microwaved.  Do the plants used in crop circles even have joins like you need.  And what happens when you cook a joint segment in a microwave oven?  Does it bend?


Is it false there are videos of people making crop circles?

From the linked article below:

"Others, though, have been less willing to believe the phenomenon is simply down to people with planks.In 2000, a study funded by Laurance Rockefeller, one of America's richest men, claimed 20% of crop circles were due to the Earth's magnetic fields.
 
Monique Klinkenbergh, who set up Wiltshire's Crop Circle Exhibition and Information Centre, says on the venue's website the "crop-circle phenomenon is about a form of 'contact' or nature we don't yet understand".
 
And even mortal circle-makers have reported unexplained events such as hovering lights, in the days before drones, while they were flattening fields."

 


This is what one crop circle maker says:

"Circle-makers themselves also often feel a deep connection with the landscape and its ancient mystique while stamping their designs at night.
 "You do feel maybe part wizard, part shaman," Mr Lundberg says.
 
"So there is, on one level, that kind of spiritual experience.
 
"But on the other level, you've got diagrams and you've got a job to do and you've got to get on with it."
 
Despite having made crop formations as land art for 30 years, even he says: "I would like to believe that there are some crop circles that are of non-human origin.""

Author Benjamin Myers on the crop circle makers who 'blew people's minds'

WallflowerActive: Why are you fixated on only one form of energy that may heat the plant stalk?

If it is environmental or alien-made or military laser-made, then the effects may vary.

Your theory of microwaving one broccoli flower in an oven compared to microwaving a living stalks of barley as a unit in the field is just not on the same level in any way for a comparable testing method. IMO

BTW, some of the stalks had holes on the nodes (from steam blasting out?) which is another anomaly to consider.

Even the crop circle makers admit they saw UFO/UAPs in the fields.

I wonder why farmers aren't putting up cameras in their fields to put this mystery to rest. Could it be when a crop circle appears, they are raking in the money from tourists?
"The only journey is the one within."
#98
(07-17-2025, 06:23 AM)quintessentone Wrote: WallflowerActive: Why are you fixated on only one form of energy that may heat the plant stalk?

No. It’s about physics and what can interact with the cellulose of the plant to bend them.

Again. I’ve seen fields laid over by wind where the plants straighten in a week.

How does a laser or magnetism interact with plant cellulose to bend them.

Do. Now you’re down to the flat earth argument you just need to believe.
#99
Quoted self
(07-17-2025, 06:57 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: No. It’s about physics and what can interact with the cellulose of the plant to bend them.

Again. I’ve seen fields laid over by wind where the plants straighten in a week.

How does a laser or magnetism interact with plant cellulose to bend them.

Do. Now you’re down to the flat earth argument you just need to believe.

It seemed to be a consensus with the researchers that it was some sort of heat element that interacted with the cellulose and/or moisture in the plant or entire plant including roots and soil (which were all affected, supposedly).

I understand why you can't or won't believe it, because just a few years ago I took the same stance.

However, now, with these research findings, I'm not so sure any more. I'll keep my mind open on this one for now.
"The only journey is the one within."



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