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#51
(05-30-2025, 01:24 AM)midicon Wrote: A prime example of human stupidity are the people who vote for the mainstream parties.


Ah yes coke/pepsi politics mate - two cheeks of the same arse.

Regarding 'stupidity' did find that Bonhoeffer vid pretty compelling, especially regarding Solomon Asch's conformity experiments and collective irrationality.

Anyway thought this with a thought provoking pic:


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Cheers.
#52
All countries commit atrocities, humanity is messed up. My question is what have these theories done to better anything? Has it solved any problems that plague us? Its great entertainment but maybe our energies would be better spent being constructive and more involved with our society
#53
When fallout 3(never played 1 or 2) first came out I always got a laugh at Vault Tech's insane unrealistic experiments and thought they were so over the top it was comical. There was no way the US would ever do this. That was when I was a kid. Now, after growing up and playing several other fallout titles, and also being a veteran and former civil servant, I realize that my gov is infested with evil and that some of the experiments conducted in the game actually have real world parallels and it makes me shake my head in disgust. The CIA and FBI were run by some very evil people in the day.

Here's a list of parallels:
Doping unsuspecting sections of the population and watching them violently react.
Administering fake medicinal trials to test some bio weapon
Nazi-type medical experiments on unsuspecting individuals 
Recruiting, supplying, encouraging and then arresting people for terrorism just to watch what the other members of a community will do.
and on and on...

A list of all the Vaults and their designated experiments that we know of so far. : r/Fallout
#54
This is quite amazing. I never knew about all these conspiracy factoids.  Wow

I've taken a different tangent and have been creating a new one. I started it when they launched the plandemic.
No doubt most would not find it very exciting to follow the numbers, which is why I decided to do just that.
However everything, as in everything has been planned around specific numbers. I play Evil level Sudoku so this planning and form of communication leaps out at me.

A central person to all of this is Billy the Gates. No surprise of course.

First off we should examine his tweet of April 14, 2020.

https://x.com/billgates/status/1250292126643941376

Halting funding to the WHO is a dangerous thing to do. Now looking at the timestamp-
11:17 April 14, 2020.

Here's Melinda- note the exact same wording and timestamp.

https://x.com/melindagates/status/1250292169631391745

The # 17 is a Billy approved number. Here's just one example-

https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/...king-water

Since there are two tweets I would expect two events. Covid was event 1. The WHO has been targeted again which means the next event is being lined up.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...anization/

In this EO President Trump has selected July 6, 2020.

If we take 6= June and since we are dealing with crazy people, I believe we should focus in on July 4.
Both the tweets use the #11, so 11 days before July 4th is June 23rd.

Target date- June 23rd. Now as to what they plan to do Question

There is quite the rolodex of different events that they may deploy but I do believe we should pay close attention to Anthony Fauci's title of his book "Expect the Unexpected."

Also Scott Gottlieb's [former commissioner of the FDA] book "Uncontrolled Spread"-
Page 395 [3+9+5=17]

Footnote 25. "More recently, we've feared that a deadly pandemic involving a novel strain of bird flu would sweep the globe. We've known we that we were long overdue for such an event. Covid was a devastating global calamity, but it could have been a lot worse.
Line #25-Odds are the [next] pandemic will be.
Line #25 & 26.[And] odds are that it will be something we don't fully [Expect].

The page number, line number is significant, along with the numbered footnotes.

I've a lot of books collected and have cross referenced the pages, dates of publication to try and get ahead of the narrative. Alarm
#55
I believe we should pay close attention to Scott Gottlieb. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Gottlieb

His actions pre Covid were very unusual. First his FDA Commissioner twitter account was deleted.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/26/fda-spar...weets.html

The date -December [17], 2019 and he just happened to have 45, 000 followers. I will get back to that.

"In February 2019, Gottlieb took action to curtail [17] dietary supplements that were making unlawful and unproven medical claims to treat Alzheimer's disease and, at the same time, unveiled a set of policy steps to strengthen the FDA's oversight of dietary supplements that were billed as the most significant modernization of the agencies regulatory supplements in [25] years." 

The last thing they would want is us to have some healthy options rather than Big Pharma approved, especially when Covid was kicked off.

Now for Pfizer's announcement of Gottlieb onto the board-

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-releas..._directors

June 27, 2019 and the timing 12:17 P.M. which just happens to be the same time that his tweets mysteriously disappeared.

He announced his resignation on March 5, 2019.
31 days in March - 5= 26. His last day was[ April 26.]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...ill-resign

Here's where things get wild. I recommend that one sets up a chart -
On the left side list the Gates children and across the top the years 2018- 2030.

Jennifer Gates birthday is [April 26], 1996. She was [23] in 2019.
Rory Gates birthday is May [23], 1999.
Phoebe Gates birthday is September 14, 2002 and she will be [23] this year. That's why I believe this year is another potential launch. [9+14= 23]

Billy became the head of Microsoft at the ripe age of [23].

It's worth including as well the two grandchildren 
Leila March 5, 2023- the irony the same day that Gottlieb announced his resignation.
Mia- Missing In Action- October 16, 2024. [10+16=26].

RFK notes in his book "The Real Anthony Fauci" that Billy plays weird word and number games so MIA is just a joke to him.

Now the reason I believe we should follow Gottlieb closely is that he had an enormous amount of influence during the plandemic.
1. Had very close and influential relationships within the FDA.
2. He had interactions with the Covid Task Force.
3. He was in the White House and had interactions with President Trump, possibly giving him some questionable advice.
4. He went on the TV and promoted the jabs.
5. He was the [23] FDA Commissioner.

Also his book has some strangeness.
Chapter 1 begins on page 14 and ENDS on page [25]

At this point I have documented "Trust issues".
#56
Now for more oddness.
Melinda Gates had her first book "Moment of Lift published April [23], 2019.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-mom...1129049662

The price $[26].99.
There are 9 chapters[ Bill Gates]...
Chapter 9 begins on page [23]9- "Let Your Heart Break: The Lift of Coming Together.

I don't for a second believe any of her women equity hype. "Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure." The quote at the beginning of the book.
[M]arianne [W]illiamson.

M/W is the call sign of Billy's private plane.
https://www.aircharterserviceusa.com/abo...and-famous

What is striking about her book is that the binding is in brilliant canary yellow. I have many books and not one has this color.

https://www.figma.com/colors/yellow/

Interesting the HEX code FFDE21.
6+6=12   DE= 45  21. They. are. completely. crazy. com

Scott Gottlieb's book was published September 21, 2021.
Sooo we have HRC's book with 45 chapters, and it was published October 12, 2021.
Everything has meaning.

The book "Disease X' by Kate Kelland has been heavily influenced by  B  ill  s  [ET] aG.

Chapter 1-:PREPARE
to be SCARED.
Begins on page [21].

The introduction starts on page 10 Meet Disease X and the sentence begins in a bold E.
Chapter 1 begins with a bold T.

Now I bring this up because of "Source Code" page 299, the last page prior to the epilogue.

"About a month later, I crammed what little I owned into my [911], inserted a cassette of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS [his emphasis]- on loan from Paul-
into the tape deck, and headed north through Nevada to Silicon Valley for a handful of meetings, then up to Seattle."

There are [26] lines on the page.
Close Encounters of a Third Kind- 2:56 mark- 911.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDG1DMNh6Uk

Since everyone here has an open mind I read this from Melinda's book "Moment of Lift' on page 6 which gave me pause-

She found out that she was pregnant before heading on her first trip to China.
"We went to China and had a fantastic trip. My pregnancy didn't affect things except for one moment when we were in an old museum in Western China and the curator opened an ancient mummy case; the smell sent me hurtling outside to avoid a rush of morning sickness..."
9 lines counting from the bottom up and 17 lines down after idea. There are [26] lines on the page.

I'm not certain if I can link this, if not please delete, although I do believe it's important..
#2222 Sep 19, 2018 8:25:34 No [309 42]< 17 [23/6] < This is confirmation of June 23.

Could it be possible that we are under attack by aliens? No
#57
(05-30-2025, 03:38 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: My question is what have these theories done to better anything?


Like I said in a previous post Broccoli most of these real world examples are pretty tame.. but they are real world examples so I wouldn't just flippantly dismiss them as 'theories'.

Seems to me you're somehow inferring that exposure of these types of shenanigans is somehow unhealthy for society - have I got that right?

The public relations deception about the massacre of infants (see this post) which led to open warfare is discussed in the guide below but I'd wager there are still countless people who still believe it to be true.

Do you not think people deserve to know the truth about such things?





#58
(06-09-2025, 05:56 AM)Karl12 Wrote:
(05-30-2025, 03:38 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: My question is what have these theories done to better anything?

Like I said in a previous post Broccoli most of these real world examples are pretty tame.. but they are real world examples so I wouldn't just flippantly dismiss them as 'theories'.

Seems to me you're somehow inferring that exposure of these types of shenanigans is somehow unhealthy for society - have I got that right?

The public relations deception about the massacre of infants (see this post) which led to open warfare is discussed in the guide below but I'd wager there are still countless people who still believe it to be true.

Do you not think people deserve to know the truth about such things?

perhaps unhealthy for society in that society runs on narrative not truth and learning to question narrative does nothing good for social coherence, but in the long run perhaps better for society in that lies tend to collapse, but that is perhaps a thing of the past as narrative machine is quite able to move on to new deceptions to occupy the social bandwidth. for example consider lies about babies being killed in incubators in iraq, question that and you might be more skeptical of stories of abuse in israeli/hamas conflict, still very divisive and socially harmful topic, so broccolipoint about not being helpful still applies there. many lies and lies inside lies this world makes and everyone finds their acceptable paradigm, or tries to. not very many people like rug-pullers haha.
#59
Yes mate suppose people want to know about objective truth or they do not (and are therefore 'reality challenged').

If a work colleague or family member was constantly lying to you every minute of every day wouldn't you want to know about it?

Have heard it said that we are now living in a 'post truth' era and despite the socially engineered 'safe space' bubble crowd reckon the majority of folks would agree with the Sagan quote below - especially when it comes to 'corporate media narratives'.



Quote:• "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

Carl Sagan



Countless examples of corporate propaganda, military psyops manipulation, political deception, sanctioned poisoning, false flag operations etc. and would suggest it's a citizen's job (as an actual adult) not to willfully ignore such things - also, when it comes to consequences of authoritarian 'groupthink' censorship cults thought there was an apt quote here.

Cheers.
#60
yes karl agree on idealism not to discount truth as hopeless. where does it end though my experience is as soon as something is widely accepted as truth a minority begins to perceive it as a model with flaws, and sees the perpetuation of it as peddling lies. for example what is true history? it is onion world layers upon layers some rotten. or take school science idea of what is matter, first it is elements, indivisible. then oh there's nuclear decay taught a few years later in high school if paying attention, then maybe college you learn that proton electron model is bs and there's bosons and quarks and such. then maybe if you physic major quantum mechanic and oh dear matter doesn't really exist. then gee you make it to graduate work and are in super silly string land because quarks are just vibration haha. the point is that those models are taught as truth at each level even though they are known to be inconsistant with some level of experimental observation, aka lies. but workable lies, convenient lies, that can be used good enough unless person wants or needs to go beyond them. how is that different from the propganda and ideology that is mediataugh? useful enough for living in the neighborhood drinking at the pub and feeling somewhat okay about what weasel you vote for. and that is what i think most people want, not complicated truth that only opens up more questions and more searching, but comfortable enough workable truthiness, so they can live in the bubble they want, not having to think its a bubble, and get on with their egoism and sensual infatuations or whatever the hell is considered the good western life.

besides people for some reason seem to need loomingdisaster ohno to fret about and fellowcitizens to fingerpoint at and say aargh you don't get it, so there is that. the last thing americans want is to be happy with one another, they need hollywood badguy to externalize or else they begin to question themselves, and can't have that haha.



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