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Recently the Governor of Florida was down in Miami promoting two pieces of legislation , SB 700 (Florida Farm Bill) and SB 56 (Geoengineering and Weather Modification Activities). These two pieces ban two questionable activities that were discussed in the CT community for decades now, water fluoridation and atmospheric geo-engineering, the latter often referred to as chemtrails. This was not done quietly, as the governor, the surgeon general, the agricultural commissioner and others were very vocally animated about governments having no right to force what is essentially community unnecessary medication against citizens' will and the asinine plots of globalists to save humanity by ejecting chemicals and metals into the atmosphere to block the sunlight, and then eventually fall on us and we breathe it in. We are the sunshine state, and the sun will shine here.
There are some good rants against Anthony Fauci and the World Economic forum regarding the COVID madness and many thanks to our Governor Mr. DeSantis as well as to Joe Ladupo the surgeon general for their courage and true leadership in the protecting the rights of American taxpayers on informed choice, against forced community medication, and the potential toxifying of our skies. Fluoridation and chemtrails, some of the very first conspiracies I remember discussing on ATS as far back as 2004 - 2005. And now the reality of them is coming to an end, confirming the conspiracies and dealing with them with legislative acts.
I highly recommend watching the video if people want to see what real leadership looks like and to regain hope that yes, your votes matter!!! We made it matter, and we forced a change for the better.
Video starts with Governor bragging about Florida being the #1 economy in the USA with the lowest per capita debt in the nation. Moves on to discussing the fluoride ban, remembering the madness of COVID and rant against Fauci. Covers the geo-engineering and adamantly clarifies that the state of Florida had no active contracts and has no contracts for this activity and has not had anything of that sort funded as long as he has been governor. I think he over emphasized that part though leading me to believe he may have been omitting federal agencies that may have done it in the past, but that is only my personal suspicion. Agricultural commissioner speaks after DeSantis to further rail against the water fluoridation. Then Joe Ladupo speaks expanding on the topics as well referring to some studies.
It ended quite strangely though, the last woman to speak, Lleana Garcia suddenly became weak and maybe fainted as she got worked up passionately right as she was going to expand on the consequences to those who may violate these new laws. I hope she gets better, because she was instrumental in getting these laws submitted to our legislature.
Our world is changing for the better, do not let the old dying deep state convince you otherwise.
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They may have also killed critical thinking.
I can't wait for the day there's nice atmospheric conditions, and every poor aircraft in a High Altitude Airway has to answer to their planes contrails.
"We were cruising at 35,000 feet! What do you mean we are suspected of geoengineering?"
The fluoride one is real. Fluorosis is real. And there is correlation to rise in fluoridation, but the chemtrail one is kinda ridiculous and makes Florida looks stupid as a state.
It's a defacto ban on cloud seeding and the real study of weather modification. Most western states have a program. But to throw out that baby with bathwater over alleged clandestine looney tunes chemtrails is kind of silly. An insult to smart Floridians and science.
The chemtrail conspiracy doesn't even have the slightest grasp of meteorology, chemistry (like when elements go through phase change), and it's kind of an assault on critical thinking. Here's why.
The entire phenomenon is proven through videos and images surrounding water. Contrails are mostly water vapor.
So what about the aeresol chemicals? It's known contrails form due to tempetature being low enough for water condensation, but it never gets into the specifics of aresol condensation, which is also possible. More so in the same 26,000 to 56,000 range.
* BUT *
But if it was a clandestine aeresol, you could release it from a plane at 18,000 feet, below the upper troposphere, the people on the ground never see the trail, and it is more likely to reach the target area.
So why would you need to go into the upper troposphere to the level where water and aeresols condense into clouds to do it? Do you want them to condense first, then let the cloud diffuse?
It works against itself by A) drawing attention to what you could do at lower Altitude without being seen B) diffusing it less effectively in a way that relies on condensation and convection (temperature/pressure) to transfer evil chemicals.
Did someone say, "You know, we want to get away with this op, so lets go do it where what we release MAKES VISIBLE CLOUDS!"
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They banned geoengineering and chemtrails in Tennessee. Guess what they still see daily.
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While I'm not saying that Jet A might not have nasty chemicals in it, what the hoo-hah about "chemtrails" seems to ignore is that perhaps water vapour itself can be used for weather modification.
For example, I've definitely seen rows of contrails that spread out and over the course of an hour or two merge together to create a sort of rolling continuous cloud-cover in what was otherwise a clear sky. Whether that would have formed naturally, I dunno, but it certainly seems to happen a lot and I suspect that cloud "seeding" can be done with water vapour alone.
Also, HAARP.
Gotta mention HAARP.
The debate about fluoride may also have a similar obscuring effect, too. For example, should we worry about the health effects of chlorine? Yes, it kills bacteria in the plumbing, but are there downsides to ingesting it or breathing it aerosolized in the shower?
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(05-10-2025, 03:38 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: While I'm not saying that Jet A might not have nasty chemicals in it, what the hoo-hah about "chemtrails" seems to ignore is that perhaps water vapour itself can be used for weather modification.
For example, I've definitely seen rows of contrails that spread out and over the course of an hour or two merge together to create a sort of rolling continuous cloud-cover in what was otherwise a clear sky. Whether that would have formed naturally, I dunno, but it certainly seems to happen a lot and I suspect that cloud "seeding" can be done with water vapour alone.
Contrails are cirrus clouds, and can’t produce rain. When contrails spread like that, conditions are almost tight for clouds to form. The engine exhaust is enough to push it over the edge into clouds.
The big debate for contrails, and you can find good arguments for both sides, is whether they block solar rays, and cool things down, or trap reflected solar rays and heat things up. The only time they’ve been able to get good data, they saw some wild diurnal swings, but only had three days of data so can’t determine much from it.
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(05-10-2025, 02:45 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Well it is good to see the behavior of NOT actually reading the source material or watching the video for clarification on the topic is still alive and well.
The legislation SB 56, is a direct response to the UK specifically I think, referred to as certain governments or people in the video, and their stated desire to block the sun to fight climate change. It goes into banning any government agencies from contracting with any private companies to do these things here in Florida, but also covers other activities not related to blocking out the sun including weather modification for cloud seeding to induce rain.
So no, Florida did not ban critical thinking, you banned it from yourself. Goodness, a more managed community, but the behavior clearly does not change!
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05-11-2025, 10:35 AM
This post was last modified: 05-11-2025, 10:41 AM by putnam6. 
(05-11-2025, 10:23 AM)worldstarcountry Wrote: Well it is good to see the behavior of NOT actually reading the source material or watching the video for clarification on the topic is still alive and well.
The legislation SB 56, is a direct response to the UK specifically I think, referred to as certain governments or people in the video, and their stated desire to block the sun to fight climate change. It goes into banning any government agencies from contracting with any private companies to do these things here in Florida, but also covers other activities not related to blocking out the sun including weather modification for cloud seeding to induce rain.
So no, Florida did not ban critical thinking, you banned it from yourself. Goodness, a more managed community, but the behavior clearly does not change!
Exactly,
FWIW, a lot of legislation lists a wide range of possibilities just to cover all the bases legally #1 and
#2 The inclusion will help win DeSantis the growing conspiracy theorist vote.
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But change is
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(05-11-2025, 10:23 AM)worldstarcountry Wrote: Well it is good to see the behavior of NOT actually reading the source material or watching the video for clarification on the topic is still alive and well.
The legislation SB 56, is a direct response to the UK specifically I think, referred to as certain governments or people in the video, and their stated desire to block the sun to fight climate change. It goes into banning any government agencies from contracting with any private companies to do these things here in Florida, but also covers other activities not related to blocking out the sun including weather modification for cloud seeding to induce rain.
So no, Florida did not ban critical thinking, you banned it from yourself. Goodness, a more managed community, but the behavior clearly does not change!
So they need to devote resources and a hotline for people to report contrails to combat weather modification?
Come on now, this bill, like ones in other states, is rooted in batshit conspiracy.
They wouldn't be passing this bill without the dullards that fear contrails harming them in some way. It's related more to paranoia and ignorance (assuaging people's boogeyman fears) than a genuine concern for combating the cloud seeding and weather modification other states are funding, with mixed results.
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05-11-2025, 11:28 AM
This post was last modified: 05-11-2025, 11:38 AM by UltraBudgie. 
(05-11-2025, 10:23 AM)worldstarcountry Wrote: The legislation SB 56, is a direct response to the UK specifically I think, referred to as certain governments or people in the video, and their stated desire to block the sun to fight climate change.
No, SB 56 was filed last year, in mid-November. The UK story didn't happen until about six months later, in April. The conspiracy-pandering motive was hurricanes:
Quote:A Miami Senator has filed a bill banning weather modification in Florida, prompted by fears of excess chemicals and amid claims that the government purposely manipulated Hurricanes Helene and Milton. https://floridianpress.com/2024/12/fl-se...rol-fears/
Remember those? And ones that sort of appeared out of nowhere and took a strange course?
It's nice to avoid chemical pollution, but I think it's more likely that any weather modification like that is being done by HAARP, space lasers, or perhaps that cubic mile of mysterious devices that are buried under the "South Pole".
Edit: Oh and how could I forget Doppler Radar! The theory that the nationwide system is connected directly to the power grid and can be secretly controlled to emit much higher power selectively, creating conditions for weather modification. For 'proof' (haha), look what the counter-intelligence agencies have created: a company called "Weather Modification, Inc": http://www.weathermodification.com/weath...ystems.php. So of course such systems are only for "assessment", as a google search will now tell you.
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(05-11-2025, 11:28 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: No, SB 56 was filed last year, in mid-November. The UK story didn't happen until about six months later, in April. The conspiracy-pandering motive was hurricanes:
https://floridianpress.com/2024/12/fl-se...rol-fears/
Remember those? And ones that sort of appeared out of nowhere and took a strange course?
It's nice to avoid chemical pollution, but I think it's more likely that any weather modification like that is being done by HAARP, space lasers, or perhaps that cubic mile of mysterious devices that are buried under the "South Pole".
HAARP, if it was capable of modifying weather, would only be able to affect a small area around the antenna array.
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