Commies want to kill your dog?

[FlyersFan]

I never said I advocated for people who can't afford pets to own pets, I said it's a societal reality that people who can't afford the vet bills still have the lawful right to have pets. That's why there are government programs in place ...

You are advocating for people who can't afford pets to own them and that the tax payer has to pick up the tab for the vet bills and bills for dog food etc etc.    That's advocating for animal abuse and it's absurd communism.  

[quintessentone]

No it's not complicated.   If a person can't afford to properly own a pet then they can't have one.  Very simple.  Anything else other than that is animal abuse.   And yes, people have a right to tell others what they can and can not do when it comes to abuse of animals and other humans.   The law says so.   So does the higher law ... Gods law.  

You advocate animal abuse all in the name of woke politics.   Horrifying.

Again, I don't advocate animal abuse, I advocate for you to clue into the reality of how society works with animal welfare and people's rights to own pets if they so wish; it is lawful albeit a sad state of affairs.

As for the subject of this thread, animal abuse can be found in the richest person's home as well as in a marginalized person's home. Animal cruelty and abuse come from people that don't fit a specific demographic.

[David64]

I don't know what you are talking about.

Poor people owning and loving their animals has been going on forever and it always will.

Communities should provide help to owners/pets, and not tell them what they can and cannot do. It really comes down to managing societal problems or those problems become the problems of all of us (via our tax dollars).

In case you haven't heard, I have 16 cats. 14 outside who were strays or drop offs, 2 inside. Do you have a clue how much we've spent on getting them fixed so they can't make more ?
How much we've spent on vet bills ?
How much we spend feeding them ?
Building houses for them ?

I never asked "the community" to chip in, this was OUR decision and I don't expect others to pay for it.

Why do you insist on telling other people how and where to spend their money ?

[quintessentone]

You are advocating for people who can't afford pets to own them and that the tax payer has to pick up the tab for the vet bills and bills for dog food etc etc.    That's advocating for animal abuse and it's absurd communism.  

I am saying they have a lawful right to own them, it's not up to you or me to say otherwise. The government has not outlawed it, rather the government uses our tax dollars to put in place programs to fix the problems.

So by your definition animal welfare programs are communist and if you believe that why aren't you out protesting on the street to stop those programs?

[quintessentone]

In case you haven't heard, I have 16 cats. 14 outside who were strays or drop offs, 2 inside. Do you have a clue how much we've spent on getting them fixed so they can't make more ?
How much we've spent on vet bills ?
How much we spend feeding them ?
Building houses for them ?

I never asked "the community" to chip in, this was OUR decision and I don't expect others to pay for it.

Why do you insist on telling other people how and where to spend their money ?

I too was a member of a trap, neuter, release program. So I know the drill.

That TNR program is paid by the community.

I got free food from the TNR program.

Feral cats, unfortunately, after seeing the doctor for their TNR are back out there, come what may. But whenever I would feel an upper respiratory infection coming on, I'd ask my doctor for a anti-biotic prescription - just in case it turns into something - which is usually did not. But I would fill the prescription and save it for the cats, which came in handy a few times.

I never told anyone where or how to spend their money on animal welfare, the government decides to use our tax dollars on animal welfare programs whether we like it or not because it is a necessary thing to do within a society where the majority of people are struggling to pay their bills. Again, it's not against any law to own a pet, give it a loving home, and do the best you can for it.

[FlyersFan]

Why do you insist on telling other people how and where to spend their money ?

It's what the left does.   tax and spend.
they think they deserve everyone else's money and they know better what to do with it.

[quintessentone]

It's what the left does.   tax and spend.
they think they deserve everyone else's money and they know better what to do with it.

Wrong. Once the government gets a hold of my money it then becomes theirs to do with what they please. I see your government is the same way.

[FlyersFan]

Wrong. 

Nope.  I'm right.

It's what the left does.   tax and spend.
they think they deserve everyone else's money and they know better what to do with it.

[quintessentone]

Nope.  I'm right.

It's what the left does.   tax and spend.
they think they deserve everyone else's money and they know better what to do with it.

That is nonsensical because government take the people's money via taxes and spend it, without the people's approval. That would be all forms of government.

[FlyersFan]

That is nonsensical ...

No, it's a fact.
The left ... tax and spend liberals.
They think they deserve everyones money and that they know better what to do with it.
It's well known for decades.   This is not up for debate.