Commentary on the Bob Lazar Tape

[DanZarfati]

I could be wrong but everything about Lazar just seems fake to me. I say that in the sense of just watching and listening to someone recounting his experience.

I have good intuition. I am old lol.

Really? He sounds convincing to me. I do believe that he was put to experience something very similar. 
How could you explain all his records were gone? The entrace of the area 51 thing checked, the EG&G, the card with Majic in it, a lot of small details checked. That tells me that there was much more than meets the eye in this narrative. 
To me, if he was a threat he wouldn't survive outside, not one day. So, that lead us to the second option, that he was in cohort with other people.

[quintessentone]

Really? He sounds convincing to me. I do believe that he was put to experience something very similar. 
How could you explain all his records were gone? The entrace of the area 51 thing checked, the EG&G, the card with Majic in it, a lot of small details checked. That tells me that there was much more than meets the eye in this narrative. 
To me, if he was a threat he wouldn't survive outside, not one day. So, that lead us to the second option, that he was in cohort with other people.

We've heard many other UAP/UFO military staff/scientists/insiders say they had to go public with their stories to save themselves from being unalived.

[Kurokage]

Stanton Friedman did an investigation of his education claims back in the day and released a book I think?

Dug this up....

https://medium.com/stanton-friedmans-art...7a5f0bf879

Incredible claims have been made about Bob Lazar for years. He supposedly is a physicist with an MS in Physics from MIT and an MS in Electronics from the California Institute of Technology. He was a “Scientist” for Los Alamos National Laboratory, and obtained a job back-engineering UFOs at a very secret site S-4 near Area 51 in Nevada through noted Physicist, the late Dr. Edward Teller.

Not one shred of evidence has been put forth to support this story: No diplomas, no résumés, no transcripts, no memberships in professional organizations, no papers, no pages from MIT or Caltech yearbooks. He also mentioned, in a phone conversation with me, California State University at Northridge and Pierce Junior College — also in the San Fernando Valley, California. I checked all four schools. Pierce said he had taken electronics courses in the late 1970s. The other three schools never heard of him.

 
He was publicly asked when he got his MS from MIT. He said “Let me see now, I think it was probably 1982.” Nobody getting an MS from MIT would not know the year immediately. He was asked to name some of his profs, He said: “Let’s see now, Bill Duxler will remember me from the physics department at Caltech.” I located Dr. Duxler. He’s a Pierce Junior College physics prof, and never taught at Caltech. Lazar was registered in one of his courses at the same time Lazar was supposedly at MIT! Nobody who can go to MIT goes to Pierce JC, not to mention the rather long commute between LA and Cambridge, Mass.

I checked his High School in New York State. He graduated in August, not with his class. The only science course he took was chemistry. He ranked 261 out of 369, which is in the bottom third. There is no way he would have been admitted by MIT or Caltech. An MS in Physics from MIT requires a thesis. No such thesis exists at MIT, and he is not on a commencement list. The notion that the government wiped his CIVILIAN records clean is absurd. I checked with the Legal Counsel at MIT — no way to wipe all his records clean. The Physics department never heard of him and he is not a member of the American Physical Society.


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This was the problem that I had with the Lazar story. If the simple things like education, friends, and teachers doesn't add up and appears false, then how can you take his 'Area 51' story as fact?
The guy is talented and does appear to 'believe' his own story, which hasn't changed much over the years, but so far no 'S4' has ever been seen or talked about by anyone other than Bob, his credentials are just pure fabrication, and he seems to lack any real knowledge of gravitational physics, which you'd think would be a must for the job he claimed he had??

At the beginning, I thought that he was a 'frontman' for some one else, which is why a big chuck of his story is just plain wrong, or even tricked into making the claims by an agency like Paul Bennewitz.

[midicon]

Really? He sounds convincing to me. I do believe that he was put to experience something very similar. 
How could you explain all his records were gone? The entrace of the area 51 thing checked, the EG&G, the card with Majic in it, a lot of small details checked. That tells me that there was much more than meets the eye in this narrative. 
To me, if he was a threat he wouldn't survive outside, not one day. So, that lead us to the second option, that he was in cohort with other people.

You can believe what you like. I'm not fussed lol.

I did say I could be wrong and was going on my intuition. Not surrounding the facts claimed or story morphed. He has plenty of supporters and detractors. I watched and listened to him when he first appeared and it was the impression I got right from the get go.

I'm more in the Vallee camp maybe.

Regards midicon

[quintessentone]

Stanton Friedman did an investigation of his education claims back in the day and released a book I think?

Dug this up....

https://medium.com/stanton-friedmans-art...7a5f0bf879

This was the problem that I had with the Lazar story. If the simple things like education, friends, and teachers doesn't add up and appears false, then how can you take his 'Area 51' story as fact?
The guy is talented and does appear to 'believe' his own story, which hasn't changed much over the years, but so far no 'S4' has ever been seen or talked about by anyone other than Bob, his credentials are just pure fabrication, and he seems to lack any real knowledge of gravitational physics, which you'd think would be a must for the job he claimed he had??

At the beginning, I thought that he was a 'frontman' for some one else, which is why a big chuck of his story is just plain wrong, or even tricked into making the claims by an agency like Paul Bennewitz.

You know, I've been reading that some say that disclosure has already happened, but we refuse to listen or to believe it.

[DanZarfati]

We've heard many other UAP/UFO military staff/scientists/insiders say they had to go public with their stories to save themselves from being unalived.

I don't believe any of them, apart from Grusch, most of their stories are bizarre. Also, what they have done is to take focus from ufology, and put the focus on "leakers" and official establishment "ufologists", not the groundbreaking ones. Only an elite can say stuff now. Perhaps you agree with it.

[midicon]

You know, I've been reading that some say that disclosure has already happened, but we refuse to listen or to believe it.

I must have missed it. Perhaps the government should announce it, that we might all believe. Then of course we won't believe the government!

It's all good and helps with all sorts of stuff, like covering up new tech, or even what the heck, just to keep us occupied.

[DanZarfati]

Stanton Friedman did an investigation of his education claims back in the day and released a book I think?

Dug this up....

https://medium.com/stanton-friedmans-art...7a5f0bf879

This was the problem that I had with the Lazar story. If the simple things like education, friends, and teachers doesn't add up and appears false, then how can you take his 'Area 51' story as fact?
The guy is talented and does appear to 'believe' his own story, which hasn't changed much over the years, but so far no 'S4' has ever been seen or talked about by anyone other than Bob, his credentials are just pure fabrication, and he seems to lack any real knowledge of gravitational physics, which you'd think would be a must for the job he claimed he had??

At the beginning, I thought that he was a 'frontman' for some one else, which is why a big chuck of his story is just plain wrong, or even tricked into making the claims by an agency like Paul Bennewitz.

No, there is a difference there. There was nothing that could be traced. That is really strange, you put a detective they would find something, to be able erase him is something else entirely. 
But there is no S-4 though. The UFOs are somewhere else I think.

Got to consider on why 3 people approached Knapp talking about area 51, and just to tell him, that they were restrained, that seems like preparation to me.

[Kurokage]

You know, I've been reading that some say that disclosure has already happened, but we refuse to listen or to believe it.

Well, I'd say my eyes are pretty firmly open, and I've been interested in this topic for longer than most. I only see people jumping on the band wagon to make a few bucks of the UFO/UAP phenomenon, with nothing ever really being 'disclosed' 
The same stories going round and round, being dragged up by a new generation who've never seen them. It been about 80 years since the modern UFO phenomenon and we still have no real tangible evidence.

[midicon]

I don't believe any of them, apart from Grusch, most of their stories are bizarre. Also, what they have done is to take focus from ufology, and put the focus on "leakers" and official establishment "ufologists", not the groundbreaking ones. Only an elite can say stuff now. Perhaps you agree with it.

Grusch looks and talks like a maniac. He reminds me of Bill Paxton!