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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-25-2025, 04:40 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: This is interesting. Apparently the shooters family has decided not to pay for a defense lawyer. He has a public defender in a possible death sentence case.

[Video: https://youtube.com/jke56ItWVHE?si=FbbqPHBwwrb6Hi87]

His family is not supporting his defense.

Why should they go millions in debt over a cut and dried losing case?
dude won't spend a day in jail. Family will be paid millions in exchange for their son being found "guilty" and then he will live his life on an island somewhere with Epstein.
(09-25-2025, 04:40 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: This is interesting. Apparently the shooters family has decided not to pay for a defense lawyer. He has a public defender in a possible death sentence case.

His family is not supporting his defense.

I wouldn't either.  I honestly believe he is schizophrenic.

I don't think he is mentally competent.  

I don't think a high profile lawyer would be effective in this case.
(09-23-2025, 09:53 AM)sahgwa Wrote: Andrew Torba of Gab Inc. always writes good pieces, this is a selection from his recent essay on how the Progressive left is in his eyes is beyond redemption, and how this ideology leads to societal collapse:

'There are moments in history when the veil is lifted, and the true nature of an ideology is laid bare for all to see. The aftermath of the cowardly assassination of Charlie Kirk was one of those moments. While patriots across America mourned the loss of a bold voice for freedom, truth, and the future of our nation, the Left erupted in celebration.
They laughed. They cheered. They shared memes. They hailed the murderer as a hero. They desecrated the memory of a man gunned down for the simple act of speaking truth.
This is not an anomaly. This is not the work of a few bad apples. This is the logical endpoint of liberalism: a death cult that worships at the altar of destruction.
At its core, this ideology venerates death. It champions the right to end innocent life in the womb, rebranding the slaughter of the unborn as “healthcare” and a sacred right. It encourages the chemical and surgical mutilation of healthy young bodies, a grotesque parody of medicine that severs the individual from their own biological reality. It pushes policies that dissolve the fundamental bonds of family and community, leaving isolated, atomized individuals adrift in a meaningless sea of consumer choices and state dependency.
Now, they celebrate political assassinations.
This is who they are. This is what they believe in. There is no life in their ideology only decay, degradation, and death. They cannot create, so they destroy. They cannot build, so they tear down. They cannot defend truth, so they silence those who speak it.
Charlie Kirk was a threat to them not because he was violent, not because he preached hatred, but because he represented something they despise: life, vitality, courage, and a future for our people. He stood for the America they are trying to erase. In their twisted world, the murder of a young man with a family, friends, and a mission is cause for joy. In their moral vacuum, the blood of the innocent is just another tool in their war against God, nature, and order.
We see you. We see your hatred. We see your emptiness. We see the hollow, lifeless eyes of a movement that has nothing left to offer but destruction, and we will not be silenced. We will mourn Charlie. We will honor his legacy. We will continue his work. And we will remember this moment, the moment the death cult showed its true face to the world.
They think this will frighten us into submission. They are wrong. It only strengthens our resolve.
For we are the builders. We are the defenders. We are the bearers of life, faith, and hope. We will never stop fighting for the future they are so desperate to destroy.
The modern liberal worldview is a hollowed-out edifice built upon a foundation of nihilism and resentment. It is not merely misguided; it is, in its essence, a metaphysical rebellion against creation itself. Its pillars are not principles of life, order, or continuity, but glorifications of decay, fragmentation, and ultimate negation.
'

yea but the other lot fund genocide.
(09-25-2025, 02:12 PM)Awhispersecho Wrote: This whole thing was planned, faked, and staged, for the sole purpose of furthering their agenda to eliminate free speech and work on eroding our 2nd amendment. The UK passed one BS law and is trying to pass another one to eliminate and control speech there. The U.S. has pesky, irritating consititution in their way so they create a false flag crisis, get everyone who normally would defend free speech to support cancelling people who say something they don't like because their chosen one suggested it. and suddenly, here we are. The same people who have stood up for free speech and defended our right to say something that others may not like are now begging for people who say something they don't like to be cancelled, punished, etc. Imagine if it was Biden or Harris that had conservative people cancelled and punished for saying things they didn't like. Oh, wait, they did. And we on the right hated it! But now, it's all good.
 
As far as the 2nd is concerned, Trump started to plant the seeds a few weeks ago when he suggested certain groups shouldn't be able to buy guns. He threw it out there to see what the response would be and immediately found out that over half of his supporters would be OK with certain groups of people have their right taken from them over other groups of people. Now, we have a false flag crisis event, followed by a couple more incidents that conveniently have ties with that group he was talking about (even going so far as people writing the perfect things on the bullets just so we are all sure who did it) After a few more, he will have his supporters begging that the 2nd gets taken away from that group. And then there will be another group, and then another. Imagine if it was Obama who said Christians or heterosexuals shouldn't be able to buy guns. 

This was my fear about Trump this time around and I told everyone who would listen that he wasn't the same guy, he was at the very least compromised. he is working for the elites. He is furthering every single agenda we on the right have stood against whether it be the great reset, censoring of speech, gun control, a move to digital currency and ID, loss of privacy, increased prices on everything that will literally price us all out of everything (you will own nothing and be happy). He and his administration have now lied about Epstein, the UFO/drone situation, the JFK files, draining the swamp, ending the so called "war" in Ukraine (that we have less footage of in 4 years than we did of the Gulf wars in 1 day before anyone even had cell phones and cameras on every block of the street), taking the heat off of vaccines by regurgitating the same warning about Tylenol from 8 years ago, the Kirk "assassination", probably his own assassination attempt, and I'm sure, countless other things. in less than a year, they have managed to lie and mislead and manipulate every single one of those stories. I seriously doubt they are suddenly telling the truth about everything else. 

He is working for them. he was the one they wanted to win the election the whole time because they knew he could get things done for them that no one on the left could becuse the resistance to them would be too great. Just like he said years ago, he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still support him. It's why the left ran Kamala, the absolute worst person they could run. He was their plan all along. 

He and his administration, are all dismantling this country, our rights, our freedoms, and our future, piece by piece. And the only people that were left to stand up for them are cheering it on because it's him. The Kirk "event" is just another part of the plan.

100% agree to every word of this. As an outsider looking in at the American public & political landscape it amazes me to what levels of one eyed rabid/cult like behaviour each "teams" fans lower themselves to.
(09-25-2025, 02:12 PM)Awhispersecho Wrote: Imagine if it was Biden or Harris that had conservative people cancelled and punished for saying things they didn't like. Oh, wait, they did.

Can you name even a single example?
(09-28-2025, 09:03 AM)Ignorant Wrote: Can you name even a single example?

There is this:

Quote:The Biden administration’s FBI placed at least 92 Republican-aligned individuals and organizations under federal scrutiny as part of a sweeping investigation known as Arctic Frost, according to new whistleblower records released by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Among those targeted was the group that the late Charlie Kirk founded, Turning Point USA. The group was one of many that was issued a subpoena as part of a batch demand to financial institutions tied to conservative fundraising groups, according to internal bank subpoena logs and whistleblower testimony provided to Congress by FBI Director Kash Patel.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-AA1MNTHc

Quote:These new records show that Arctic Frost was much broader than just an electoral matter.

The case was expanded to Republican organizations.

Some examples of the groups the Wray FBI sought to place under political investigation included the Republican National Committee, Republican Attorneys General Association and Trump political groups.

In total, 92 Republican targets, including Republican groups and Republican-linked individuals, were placed under the investigative scope of Arctic Frost.

On that political list was one of Charlie Kirk’s groups, Turning Point USA.

In other words, Arctic Frost wasn’t just a case to politically investigate Trump.

It was the vehicle by which partisan FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors could achieve their partisan ends and improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus.
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/r...-biden-fbi
(09-25-2025, 04:56 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Why should they go millions in debt over a cut and dried losing case?

He did not fire the fatal bullet, but to be where and how he was, up to his neck in it. He wont be going home anytime soon.
(09-28-2025, 10:01 AM)Kwaka Wrote: He did not fire the fatal bullet, but to be where and how he was, up to his neck in it. He wont be going home anytime soon.

There is no way he fired the shot at his angle and where it hit Charlie. Plus all the other crazy issues!
Be kind to everyone!
(09-28-2025, 11:30 PM)Bush Master Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...4590_n.jpg]

That graph is based on this paper, using "a dataset of 750 terrorist attacks and plots in the United States" and these definitions:

Quote:This brief defines left-wing terrorism as that which is motivated by an opposition to capitalism, imperialism, or colonialism; black nationalism; support for LGBTQ+ rights; support for environmental causes or animal rights; adherence to pro-communist, pro-socialist beliefs or “anti-fascist” rhetoric; opposition to government authority under the belief it is a tool of oppression responsible for social injustices; support for decentralized political and social systems, such as anarchism; or partisan extremism, where violence is justified against political opponents and parties perceived as advancing right-wing agendas.

Right-wing terrorism as used in this analysis includes incidents motivated by ideas of racial or ethnic supremacy; opposition to government authority, believing it is tyrannical and illegitimate; misogyny, including incels; hatred based on sexuality or gender identity; belief in the QAnon conspiracy theory; opposition to abortion; or partisan extremism, where violence is justified against political opponents and parties perceived as advancing left-wing agendas.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-...a-tells-us



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