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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-17-2025, 10:42 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: All across social media, I haven't seen one person -- left or right -- who believes that exchange is legit

I believe its legit.

I believe this case is very straight forward.

He needs a psych eval though.
(09-17-2025, 12:18 PM)AnAlternateOpinion Wrote: It's kind of been hashed over already but I'll just add this:

The original report is behind a paywall
DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

But a synopsis of the story can be found here:
DOJ Deletes Study Documenting Frequency Of Far-Right Violence: Report

LMAO...HuffPost??

Keep reaching blindly.

Whenever I want to celebrate a murder, I'll book some Liberals.

They throw a hell of a murder celebration and I hear they are pretty cheap when it's a Conservative.
(09-17-2025, 11:31 AM)Vermilion Wrote: What you may be missing, or not, is the fact that those groups have been tied to previous terror attacks.
The most recent was the Dallas ICE attack by a group of trans antifa terrorists.
They have direct ties to Armed Queers SLC which is in St George Utah, Tyler Robinson’s home city.
The FBI investigation of them has nothing to do with politics, it is an intelligent rational law enforcement investigation.
Do you honestly think the FBI is investigating Armed Queers SLC because of politics, or are you just inferring it.


If there are direct links, I’m all for it if there is credible intel tied to violence.

There are enough platforms now a days where you don’t deserve a voice if you’re not going to use it. If your opinions need violence to send a message, they’re probably shitty ideas that couldn’t be sold anyways.

“Do you honestly think the FBI is investigating Armed Queers SLC because of politics, or are you just inferring it.”

I think they should release evidence that they have after an investigation for public trust. Between you and I, I don’t take them at their word much of the time. That’s not because I am worried for some pseudo militant queer group. Not sure what they’re fighting for when they have just as much rights as anyone else.

But there have been really questionable investigations in the past. Much have which have been politically motivated and aimed at both sides (though you’ll see it in waves focusing on one side or the other).

Theyll also go after religious groups, recently investigating Catholics. Now, they claim it was more extremist ones, but I suppose the institutional problem I see with them is that they’re willing to look into Catholics with extreme political views after decades of turning a blind eye to some of the priests who were committing crimes against the youth.

They shouldn’t be as political as they have been, and should focus on the law more than anything. And that’s not necessarily new. Hoover was known to blackmail and keep files on people.
(09-17-2025, 12:33 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I believe its legit.

I believe this case is very straight forward.

He needs a psych eval though.

It's probably not legit

Of course, there are still certain segments of society in various pockets who still believe what they're told

But I think the majority of the population is waking up

Not to any specific narrative 

But to the realization they're being lied to
(09-17-2025, 12:33 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I believe its legit.

I believe this case is very straight forward.

He needs a psych eval though.



Wow it was so romantic how after assassinating that guy he messaged his boyfriend and said …

"my love, I just wanted to reiterate that I am a lone gunman and you were totally uninvolved"

“Please recall that my father is MAGA and is oppressive to us oppressed classes”

"My love, delete that message! Now is not the time to talk about my giant penis and hidden six pack. I must flee."
(09-17-2025, 12:07 PM)ANNEE Wrote: What exactly is Political

Is there a specific cause they are fighting for through proper channels to affect change?

And what would this change be?

Or are they just huffing and puffing on the internet -- being obnoxious elsewhere -- and taking advantage when it suits them.

Over half of those who self-identified as left of center
(56%) reported that if someone murdered Donald Trump, they would be at least somewhat justified, similar proportions supported murdering Musk and destroying Tesla dealerships. This
includes 14.1% who said this murder would be “Completely Justified.” Similarly, half (50.2%) of those
who self-identified as left of center said the murder of Elon Musk would be somewhat justified (or
greater), with about 10.7% saying this is “Completely Justified”. Over 1/3 of all
respondents believe it is at least somewhat acceptable to destroy Tesla dealerships to protest Elon
Musk’s involvement in the Presidential administration.

Murder justification, property destruction, assassination culture and radical ideation are all being presented and supported in the cyber-social presences today in places like BlueSky where there is immense pressure to be even more radical than the next person. All for political reasons.
(09-17-2025, 12:41 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Wow it was so romantic how after assassinating that guy he messaged his boyfriend and said …

"my love, I just wanted to reiterate that I am a lone gunman and you were totally uninvolved"

“Please recall that my father is MAGA and is oppressive to us oppressed classes”

"My love, delete that message! Now is not the time to talk about my giant penis and hidden six pack. I must flee."

I did say he needed a psych eval.

But yeah -- I think it's legit -- no conspiracy.
(09-17-2025, 12:47 PM)Moon68 Wrote: Murder justification, property destruction, assassination culture and radical ideation are all being presented and supported in the cyber-social presences today in places like BlueSky where there is immense pressure to even more radical than the next person. All for political reasons.

Extremist/Radicals -- are -- Extremist/Radicals.

They'll use whatever -- to appease their extremist concepts -- including political opportunities.  


Then there's legitimate politics -- having a platform -- going through proper channels to affect change.

Totally different IMO
(09-17-2025, 12:48 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I did say he needed a psych eval.

But yeah -- I think it's legit -- no conspiracy.

The discussion is split between two opposing sides

Not left vs right 

But those who buy the story and those who question & doubt

Having a natural, conspiratorial mind, I'm solidly in the skeptics camp

I cant prove unsubstantiated conjecture 

However, from what I'm seeing, the main plot is unraveling fast
"Charlie Kirk was a racist because he said that Joy Reid only got into Harvard because of affirmative action."

Did he really say that?

2023. Joy Reid: "Let me be clear, I got into Harvard only because of affirmative action."

Video here…

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1968143365616329076



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