Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[putnam6]

Let me begin first by thanking anyone that actually takes the time to read what I have to say in regards to what I am seeing because it concerns me greatly. Let me also make it very clear that I view myself as a proper libertarian; i.e, socially liberal, but fiscally and legislatively conservative. I do not care what anyone does in their private lives. It's not my place to judge. However, when our public and private lives become dictated for us? That's a problem for me.


One of the things that I used to enjoy, every time I crawled out from my hole and logged back into society, and social media, was seeing snippets of Charlie Kirk's debates being cut and edited to make a point either way. The reason I enjoyed it so much was because I always felt compelled to seek out what was cut away, and what the agenda and the reasoning behind the editing actually was.

I've seen Charlie Kirk fiercely debate "leftists" that acted like petulant children, and I've seen him put horrendously bigoted "alt-right" individuals in their place as well. This was a man that made his beliefs sacred, for better or worse, and thus.... He is worthy of respect, because he was a man of principle.

What concerns me most about the lost of this man, is how his death immediately became so twisted. Think about it. We watched him die, "Live on TV." And somehow also knew almost immediately where the shot came from but couldn't find the shooter? That's.... Off...

We also watched as the FBI announced multiple times, "We got the guy." and then let the POI go... We got caught up in the anger and vitriol of red vs blue, meanwhile no one really paid attention to an airfield that didn't get locked down, and a private jet that illegally disappeared from radar... That's... Off...

It has never been more clear to me that we are being led along...

So I would like to request that we all, very angrily but with steeled determination, sift through the lies... We focus on what exactly is true. What facts do we actually know? And how is what we know being used to twist the truth up into yet another lie? 

I posit this acknowledgement, but at this time can offer no proof of anything, so I fall back on the words attributed to a former director of Certain Instigative Actors, "We will know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

Again, let me ask you this while we all palm the blades at our sides.... What facts do we actually know?

It's too early for anything but the basics because most of what I'd use as "evidence" is video of somebody climbing off the roof and those text messages, but virtually all of this could be ruled inadmissible

The prosecution says they will share discovery with Robinson's lawyers on Friday

Facts 

CK appeared to be shot in the neck while answering a specific question about trans people
The videos presented as evidence seem to show an individual jumping down from the roof that led to the sniper's nest

We have the father suspecting the son wants to kill himself after confessing

The grandfather identified the rifle from a picture

The FBI says it has confession texts between Robinson and Twiggs, who were roommates at least

[MalevolentTwitch]

It's too early for anything but the basics because most of what I'd use as "evidence" is video of somebody climbing off the roof and those text messages, but virtually all of this could be ruled inadmissible

The prosecution says they will share discovery with Robinson's lawyers on Friday

Facts 

CK appeared to be shot in the neck while answering a specific question about trans people
The videos presented as evidence seem to show an individual jumping down from the roof that led to the sniper's nest

We have the father suspecting the son wants to kill himself after confessing

The grandfather identified the rifle from a picture

The FVI says it has confession texts between Robinson and Twiggs, who were roommates at least

Okay. This is perfect. From this, and from the video footage of “CK”  getting hit, we can also ascertain that “CK” was not wearing Level IV or otherwise rigid or “plate” body armor. I will absolutely provide proof of this as soon as I can figure out how to upload videos or gifs showing how soft vs hard body armor reacts to bullets and how the ricochet theory is a non-starter… 

The reason this is important is the accepted narrative is that “CK” got hit in the neck and that somehow the shirt he was wearing acted weird…

From there we can extrapolate and start to argue about the caliber of the weapon in question. Again, as soon as I can figure out how to upload charts and data I’ll be able to show proof of this, but the accepted maximum point blank range for a rifle chambered in 30-06 is roughly 300 yards depending on barrel length. Maximum Point Blank Range is the distance in which any firearm can be fired without human error and all rounds fired should impact within a 6 inch circle, favoring the vertical axis…. Based on this, an average hunting rifle, chambered in 30-06, with… (and I’m assuming here, a 3-9x 40mm scope) does fit the bill for fairly accurate, first shot hit probability within 250 to 300 yards. 

The reason this is important is debunking the idea that the shooter absolutely had to be a pro or otherwise precision marksman.

[tarantulabite]

Has anyone seen this video? This guy shows how the shot may have come from a dif place ....take it with a grain of salt....but def thought it's a interesting take 

**warning may have graphic images**
Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make - VIDEO

[Bush Master]

Things are heating up.

[cherokeetroy]

Yup

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Yup

[Image: https://i.imgur.com/Ww5FbWu.jpeg]

He better watch it, opinions like that might be  looked into soon.

Soooo.... is he suggesting this was some type of (really really committed) opperative tasked with infiltrating the LGBT community and using them as a false flag to justify a quasi-fascist crackdown on the left for catch-all reasons.

Or is that just my projection?

May need to rename "Antifascist Action" now... put "non violent action" in its name...

[cherokeetroy]

He better watch it, opinions like that might be  looked into soon.

Soooo.... is he suggesting this was some type of (really really committed) opperative tasked with infiltrating the LGBT community and using them as a false flag to justify a quasi-fascist crackdown on the left for catch-all reasons.

Or is that just my projection?

May need to rename "Antifascist Action" now... put "non violent action" in its name...

"My old man"

Is a dead giveaway 

Who th wrote that, some Fed agent holdover from the 70s?

[putnam6]

Okay. This is perfect. From this, and from the video footage of “CK”  getting hit, we can also ascertain that “CK” was not wearing Level IV or otherwise rigid or “plate” body armor. I will absolutely provide proof of this as soon as I can figure out how to upload videos or gifs showing how soft vs hard body armor reacts to bullets and how the ricochet theory is a non-starter… 

The reason this is important is the accepted narrative is that “CK” got hit in the neck and that somehow the shirt he was wearing acted weird…

From there we can extrapolate and start to argue about the caliber of the weapon in question. Again, as soon as I can figure out how to upload charts and data I’ll be able to show proof of this, but the accepted maximum point blank range for a rifle chambered in 30-06 is roughly 300 yards depending on barrel length. Maximum Point Blank Range is the distance in which any firearm can be fired without human error and all rounds fired should impact within a 6 inch circle, favoring the vertical axis…. Based on this, an average hunting rifle, chambered in 30-06, with… (and I’m assuming here, a 3-9x 40mm scope) does fit the bill for fairly accurate, first shot hit probability within 250 to 300 yards. 

The reason this is important is debunking the idea that the shooter absolutely had to be a pro or otherwise precision marksman.

Yeah, obviously Im not 100% but Im pretty sure they have the rifle, a Mauser model 98 30.06



and can tie it to Robinson. All of this sooner or later can be easily confirmed or debunked
 
The shot as presented is fairly easy, as the scope on the 30.06 was plenty good enough to show a nice silhouette at approximately 200 yards. I do not know if they have the bullet or fragments, but it's possible 

Furthermore, I looked at the day of the shooting of a close-up video and while there is movement on CK's shirt, left shoulder neckline, it could easily be attributed to being shot by a high velocity bullet a few inches higher.

But again, all of this will have to be presented as evidence, the autopsy should be able to prove it was a ricochet or not

I didn't include these as facts, but I feel like the preponderance of the evidence points towards your conclusions. The body armour point is moot if it hits the body armour; it's obvious and easily proven; they would have to show evidence that his body armour was hit, so it's difficult to believe it was a ricochet. They would have to hide or manipulate that obviously available piece of evidence

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

"My old man"

Is a dead giveaway 

Who th wrote that, some Fed agent holdover from the 70s?

I dont think the left gets to use false flag accusations like the right does. It best to accept that now, I think. 

[Ignorant]

What about the post in the image suggests false flag to you?