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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-13-2025, 02:22 PM)quintessentone Wrote: They are focusing on making threats against dem politicians and their children, and anyone they think is not a conservative talkinghead.

Didn't you say speech has consequences?
(09-13-2025, 02:20 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Just curious, but how many businesses have been burned, looted, destroyed, how many statues have been knocked down since the assassination?

I concede the point to you.   
The right doesn't react emotionally in a negative way like the left does.
You have the 'one off' of January 6.
But generally ... they talk and talk but do nothing whereas the left take to the streets and break the law.

With Kirks murder, the right have taken to having prayer vigils and memorials on TV.
Lots and lots of tribute on TV and radio shows and podcasts.
No one went out and looted or burned buildings.
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Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
(09-13-2025, 02:24 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Didn't you say speech has consequences?

No, I posted other talking heads who said that some of the things Kirk said were considered by a lot of people as being hateful, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, anti-transgender, Islamaphobic  etc.  etc.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-13-2025, 02:27 PM)quintessentone Wrote: No, I posted other talking heads who said that some of the things Kirk said were considered by a lot of people as being hateful, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, anti-transgender, Islamaphobic  etc.  etc.

... and yet, it wasn't. 

And no, Kirk didn't call for gays to be stoned.   

Even Stephen King took down his post saying so and apologized for claiming that.
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Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
(09-13-2025, 02:27 PM)quintessentone Wrote: No, I posted other talking heads who said that some of the things Kirk said were considered by a lot of people as being hateful, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, anti-transgender, Islamaphobic  etc.  etc.


Do I need to post the 1st Amendment for you?
(09-13-2025, 02:05 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: You've got it backwards.
You have to prove government involvement.
And so far, there is no proof of that.

Occams Razor says this murder is exactly what it looks like ...
young-ish far left guy who is unhinged murdered an innocent
man because that unhinged guy didn't like what the innocent
man had to say.


My point is it's virtually impossible for me to prove government involvement when I don't have the tools or the reach the government has

Especially when I'm working against a narrative perpetrated by said government and solidified by people who automatically accept and believe everything they're own authority figures tell them

That's why conspiracy theories exist to begin with

Occams Razor says this murder is exactly what it looks like but how are you gathering your information? Are you leading your own investigation?

No. You are relying on the edited, 2nd hand data from media

The same media Trump has espoused over and over again as FAKE NEWS

You do realize two separate, opposing narratives are being spun and fed to both side creating two totally different versions of reality

Both sides are being radicalized against each other
(09-13-2025, 02:08 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: It was advertised 9 days in advance.
No one outside the Kirk inner circle knew about it otherwise.
The Moosad wouldn't have known about it before that 9 day window.
They wouldn't have had time to get upset about Kirk asking a few questions.
(none of those questions raised to the level of 'do something about him).
They wouldn't have had time to find an unhinged patsy.
They wouldn't have had time to get him into a murderous rage.
They wouldn't have had time to train him and get the murder planned with him.

Moosad doesn't fit.   It doesn't work.   It makes no sense.

Charlie was considered a friend to Benjamin Netanyahu
(09-13-2025, 02:24 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yeah, the Moosad thing is poking me still.

For the past two days you were desperately pushing the narrative that it was the alt-right.
No one was picking up what you put down.
So now you are going to switch to the Moosad?
Kinda looks desperate to blame anyone other than the unhinged left wing guy who actually did it.
make russia small again
Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
(09-13-2025, 02:25 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: I concede the point to you.   
The right doesn't react emotionally in a negative way like the left does.
You have the 'one off' of January 6.
But generally ... they talk and talk but do nothing whereas the left take to the streets and break the law.

With Kirks murder, the right have taken to having prayer vigils and memorials on TV.
Lots and lots of tribute on TV and radio shows and podcasts.
No one went out and looted or burned buildings.

Wasn't there a alt-right right winger white supremacist (all the same to me) who drove a car into a crowd and killed a woman...Charolttesville

and -

Another alt-right winger drives into crowd in CA? | Political Talk


Driving a car into a crowd of people obviously doesn't require any negative emotion, is that right?

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That's nice that they have prayers for him, but they should also pray that their calls for civil war and actually committing the murders from their death threats never come to fruition.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-13-2025, 02:28 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: ... and yet, it wasn't. 

And no, Kirk didn't call for gays to be stoned.   

Even Stephen King took down his post saying so and apologized for claiming that.



Great point.

Has anyone offered a direct quote, in context, from Charlie that they considered racist or sexist or bigoted?
That dog is not barking.
By now, I should have seen plenty of examples.
All I hear is generic insults and hate.



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