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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-13-2025, 10:17 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: No one knows what she means by anything.
Loomer is looney.  
She worked for Info-Wars.
Tells ya' what you need to know.

She's gotta have some mental stuff going on to do what she did to her face. She used to be a nice looking young lady... Then she bought a bunch of plastic, and looks like the puppet from the Saw movies now.

As much as she rips on trans people, she stopped just short of changing the plumbing, and should be able to relate to them not feeling comfortable in the skin given to her.

Really sad, if she had embraced how she used to look, and talked without sounding like a more mad Alex Jones, she could have had a respectable career, IMO.
ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO

MSM or all the various social media paid-for clicks podcasts without an extremely skeptical eye...

hasn't been paying attention
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But change is 
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(09-13-2025, 10:15 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: conservative influences and podcasters, some very familiar with Kirk, are coming out to say Charlie was pushing back against certain narratives and starting to ask 'uncomfortable ' questions. Especially within these last couple of months

Loomer is an avid Trump supporter

I just now asked search engine "how much influence does Loomer have on trump", first hit:
How far-right activist Laura Loomer is shaping the Trump administration
Quote:A right-wing political activist who has spread conspiracy theories and used hate speech has become a central figure in the hirings and firings of Trump staffers. Laura Loomer has successfully lobbied to remove aides in several key government roles, including the National Security Council. Stephanie Sy reports on Loomer's mission to shape the Trump administration in her vision.

For a while she was the visible Trump whisperer. I remember that actual top aides didn't want her around, but Trump insisted that she fly around in Air Force One and sit in on important meetings.
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(09-13-2025, 10:22 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: She's gotta have some mental stuff going on to do what she did to her face. She used to be a nice looking young lady... Then she bought a bunch of plastic, and looks like the puppet from the Saw movies now.

As much as she rips on trans people, she stopped just short of changing the plumbing, and should be able to relate to them not feeling comfortable in the skin given to her.

Really sad, if she had embraced how she used to look, and talked without sounding like a more mad Alex Jones, she could have had a respectable career, IMO.

Career means they are likely beholden to the all-mighty dollar

some speak for profit, and some speak for purpose...
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(09-13-2025, 10:20 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: That was the Epstein thing.  Kirk was one of the voices saying 'release the info'.   But most everyone in MAGA world, and in the Republicans in general, are saying it, except for Trump and his cabinet.  It's the one thing the regular Republicans and regular Democrats agree on ...

Epstein stuff was part of it but not the only thing being brought into question 

No, most everyone in MAGA republican world are not calling for release of info

Most are now pushing against it since Trump labeled it a Hoax

Link

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My insane liberal wife was like, oh Kirk said the 2nd amendment and guns might mean more deaths, so it's ironic he was the one who died.

I turned it around. That's just a generic statement, like.... if we allow people to have cars, there will be more car deaths. So, is it ok to just run down the person who made that observation?
(09-13-2025, 10:43 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: No, most everyone in MAGA republican world are not calling for release of info

Yes, everything I've been reading says the regular street level MAGA people are pissed that the Epstein info isn't being released.    Not those in the cabinet or around Trump ... I"m talking about regular every day people.  Kirk was one of the many voices calling for the release of the info.
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(09-13-2025, 10:39 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Career means they are likely beholden to the all-mighty dollar

some speak for profit, and some speak for purpose...

I agree.

I also think the other element is they all find their own niche, or something to differentiate themselves.

There aren't as many measured and reasonable pundits/commentators these days. A lot of it is a contest to show buy in and conviction. Saying things that are provocative also gets free publicity and engagement. We see that all over MSM, social, and with influencers.
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(09-13-2025, 10:49 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yes, everything I've been reading says the regular street level MAGA people are pissed that the Epstein info isn't being released.    Not those in the cabinet or around Trump ... I"m talking about regular every day people.  Kirk was one of the many voices calling for the release of the info.


Well if the amount of pushback received from MAGA on this platform, alone is any indication, I'd say you're wrong

Just go read the threads to see the hostility



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