Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[UKTRUTH]

The movement to radicalize the American right is much bigger than "groypers"

There are two glaring realities over the last decade (and even further back)

1) the left is organised and coordinated at inciting violence - we have all seen the left wing politicians and main stream media in lockstep using exactly the same phrases and language from politicians to national media to local media to left wing influencers, literal campaigns that use these phrases/one liners.  When a new phrase or line comes up it is broadcast and amplified in the exactly the same way that a business markets it's product. 

2) the left is organised and coordinated for carrying out violence and anarchy. They will be on the streets, burning, looting, signs all manufactured, ready, and distributed, etc, in hours when required.  It's a militant army of people ready for anarchy. 

Neither of those things are true of the right.  The only reason there has not been a bloodbath already is precisely because the right is NOT the same.

Violence is only the nature of one side here - the left.  It's a fundamental part of their power grab, along with censorship of any dissenting voices.
It's time to stop pretending otherwise.

[RichardHurt]

There are two glaring realities over the last decade (and even further back)

1) the left is organised and coordinated at inciting violence - we have all seen the left wing politicians and main stream media in lockstep using exactly the same phrases and language from politicians to national media to local media to left wing influencers, literal campaigns that use these phrases/one liners.  When a new phrase or line comes up it is broadcast and amplified in the exactly the same way that a business markets it's product. 

2) the left is organised and coordinated for carrying out violence and anarchy. They will be on the streets, burning, looting, signs all manufactured, ready, and distributed, etc, in hours when required.  It's a militant army of people ready for anarchy. 

Neither of those things are true of the right.  The only reason there has not been a bloodbath already is precisely because the right is NOT the same.

Violence is only the nature of one side here - the left.  It's a fundamental part of their power grab, along with censorship of any dissenting voices.
It's time to stop pretending otherwise.

Are you being serious or just being satirical?
Either way this is not the thread for such things.

[Ignorant]

I wasn't really talking about violence and this isn't a competition about which "side" is more violent (if it was, I'd have some things to say because your post gives a rather one-sided and clearly partisan account). People were talking about how "groypers", a movement to radicalize the American right, are just a fringe minority and I thought it worth pointing out that although that may be true, the American right is radicalizing perfectly well without its help

[Heiden]

There are two glaring realities over the last decade (and even further back)

1) the left is organised and coordinated at inciting violence - we have all seen the left wing politicians and main stream media in lockstep using exactly the same phrases and language from politicians to national media to local media to left wing influencers, literal campaigns that use these phrases/one liners.  When a new phrase or line comes up it is broadcast and amplified in the exactly the same way that a business markets it's product. 

2) the left is organised and coordinated for carrying out violence and anarchy. They will be on the streets, burning, looting, signs all manufactured, ready, and distributed, etc, in hours when required.  It's a militant army of people ready for anarchy. 

Neither of those things are true of the right.  The only reason there has not been a bloodbath already is precisely because the right is NOT the same.

Violence is only the nature of one side here - the left.  It's a fundamental part of their power grab, along with censorship of any dissenting voices.
It's time to stop pretending otherwise.

Truth

[Sky727]

If I had to bet I doubt Mr. Robinson will survive for very long in either state or federal prison; which is fine with me as the cost of keeping a POS like him in prison is-

States incarcerated more than 1 million people at the end of 2021, according to Bureau of Justice Statistics data. To house them, state governments spent a combined $64.0 billion (inflation-adjusted). Spending per prisoner varies more than tenfold across states, from just under $23,000 per person in Arkansas to $307,468 in Massachusetts. Spending in Massachusetts was more than double any other state; the median state spent $64,865 per prisoner for the year.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-d...n-prisons/

For the great liberal state of Massachusetts spending $307,468 per prisoner I wonder how much of that money is siphoned off and deposited into a Democrat's/Politician's slush fund ?

[BeyondKnowledge]

I wasn't really talking about violence and this isn't a competition about which "side" is more violent (if it was, I'd have some things to say because your post gives a rather one-sided and clearly partisan account). People were talking about how "groypers", a movement to radicalize the American right, are just a fringe minority and I thought it worth pointing out that although that may be true, the American right is radicalizing perfectly well without its help

And what do you think is the main reason for a few on the right to be radicalized as you put it? I see the actions of the left causing it in the few cases that do occure.

Sorry, I forgot. The left cannot see itself and has no self awareness.

[UKTRUTH]

I wasn't really talking about violence and this isn't a competition about which "side" is more violent (if it was, I'd have some things to say because your post gives a rather one-sided and clearly partisan account). People were talking about how "groypers", a movement to radicalize the American right, are just a fringe minority and I thought it worth pointing out that although that may be true, the American right is radicalizing perfectly well without its help

Violence is the actual result of radicalization, it's the key issue.
Peaceful 'radicals' are rarely an issue.

There is nothing partisan about the truth, it simply is.

We could spend all our time picking instances from one side or another and there will be plenty. Individual instances.

I am talking about a wide reaching and integral way of operating and it's fairly obvious that the core to the lefts approach is intimidation, violence and control - which is not the same as the right.
This is of course nuanced.  Really we're talking about the radical left and the radical right, but unfortunately the left has a major problem where the radical element is now the controlling and dominant element.
We see this manifest itself in the way the Democrats act like the Borg when it comes to voting and repetition of the same inciteful rhetoric.   It's ubiquitous.

To shine a light on it - the left is about to elect an out and out marxist as Mayor of one of the great cities of the world.  It would be like the right electing David Duke as mayor of a city they have the majority in.  That will simply not happen.

The time has passed to keep pretending the huge divide in society is a 'both sides' issue.  It's a left issue.
Democrat incitement has moved to assassination of people who are simply debating an alternative point of view - not even politicians.  If the left refuses to self reflect and stop this madness now, eventually it will lead to the right operating in the same way and then we're at the point of no return.

In other words, this is entirely in the hands of the left - they need stop this nonsense and pull back and that means totally rejecting the radical elements that are driving their politics and social agenda.

A young man with a family is dead - assassinated in cold blood in front of the world. He's dead because of Democrat politicians and the left wing media.  They campaigned endlessly for his death. He wasn't a Nazi, he wasn't a 'threat to democracy', he wasn't evil.  He was the opposite of those things.  A good man who wanted to debate, exchange ideas and partake in what democracy and a peaceful society is all about.

He's the MLK of our time. 
I hope and pray that the left will stop and no more martyrs will be needed for things to turn around.
Every single person on the left needs to understand this before the radical element of the right becomes more than what it is - a fringe element with near zero influence.

[FlyersFan]

If you falsely yell fire in a crowded theater and then get trampled to death by people trying to get out, who is to blame?

Kirk was an agitator and an instigator who held horrible beliefs and said terrible and hateful things but he didn't deserve to die for it.

No he didn't hold horrible beliefs and he didn't say terrible and hateful things.
You just disagree with his conservative views.   That doesn't make them terrible or hateful.
You are blaming him for his own murder.   That's pretty disgusting.

[FlyersFan]

"For example, in a May 2025 podcast episode, he stated: “Islam is not compatible with the West,” describing it as a “tyrannical” system that lacks individual liberties.
 He called for the abolition of Shariah Law in every U.S. state, claiming it poses a direct threat to American governance.
 
On X, he posted statements like: “Islam has conquest values. They seek to take over land and territory, and Europe is now a conquered continent,” suggesting that Muslim immigration leads to cultural erosion.
 

That's not hate speech.
That's all true.

[UKTRUTH]

That's not hate speech.
That's all true.

Exactly.
 Some people just can’t stop categorising normal speech as hate speech.
 They can’t see the error of their ways and likely never will.