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(09-12-2025, 03:54 PM)quintessentone Wrote:  Kirk, a staunch supporter of U.S. President Donald Trump, once said, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.""

So?
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Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
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(09-12-2025, 03:59 PM)Moon68 Wrote: And that’s a lie. You should factcheck yourself before making those assertions.

Fact check Kirk's words.

""I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it," Kirk said. "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s." "

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"He said he hoped marriage would make Swift more conservative and encouraged her to "Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." 
 "I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelce concert," he said. "You've got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it.""

and the reply to him:

""Charlie could learn a thing or two about positive masculinity from Travis," said one fan."

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"Kirk also garnered backlash for his support to Israel, backing its nearly two-year campaign in Gaza. He was described by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday as a "lion-hearted friend of Israel.""

Some of Charlie Kirk's most controversial takes | CBC News  

Still no reason to kill him, but first let's find out who the assassin really is and why he did it. So far, all of this is speculation.
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(09-12-2025, 03:59 PM)Moon68 Wrote: And that’s a lie. You should factcheck yourself before making those assertions.


I will only post this one cause I really don't want to engage with you more as you are only using insults here.
 Journalist William Turton first reported on Kirk's comments in a January 2024 article for Wired (archived). According to Turton's report, Kirk made the statement while speaking at America Fest, a political convention organized by Turning Point USA, in December 2023.
Turton attended the event in person while working as a reporter for Wired. He provided an audio recording to Snopes, which verified that Kirk said:
Quote:I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.
Kirk made the comment while responding to a question from a student who said he was the subject of a Title IX investigation at their university after posting a derogatory message about transgender people on social media.
(09-12-2025, 03:48 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: "You can tell a lot about a person by the way they react when someone dies"

- Charlie Kirk  2016

No one should be murdered.

Does not mean I agree with or am required to support their beliefs.

In the case of Charlie Kirk -- I do not agree with his beliefs or support them.
(09-12-2025, 04:07 PM)InsulindianFox Wrote: I will only post this one cause I really don't want to engage with you more as you are only using insults here.
 Journalist William Turton first reported on Kirk's comments in a January 2024 article for Wired (archived). According to Turton's report, Kirk made the statement while speaking at America Fest, a political convention organized by Turning Point USA, in December 2023.

Turton attended the event in person while working as a reporter for Wired. He provided an audio recording to Snopes, which verified that Kirk said:

Kirk made the comment while responding to a question from a student who said he was the subject of a Title IX investigation at their university after posting a derogatory message about transgender people on social media.

And -

"Activist Josh Helfgott said Kirk was "the loudest homophobe in America, and his words caused immense harm to LGBTQ+ people".Referring to one of Kirk's podcast episodes where he called for a ban on gender care, Helfgott said: "This was more than political theatre. It was a dangerous, real-world assault on LGBTQ+ safety and dignity.""

Young fans and critics debate Charlie Kirk's political legacy

I'm only posting his words to give everyone a reference point as to why some people would consider those
words as hate speech and some non empathic and callous people may celebrate his death. Just saying, it's not my stance.

In fact, as I was researching him it looked to me like his ideologies were changing, such as him starting to question why the U.S. is involved with secular Israel, which was a complete 180 degree turn from his previous stance. People change as they live and learn and it is tragic and sad that Charlie Kirk wasn't given that chance.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-12-2025, 04:17 PM)quintessentone Wrote: In fact, as I was researching him it looked to me like his ideologies were changing, such as him starting to question why the U.S. is involved with secular Israel, which was a complete 180 degree turn from his previous stance. People change as they live and learn and it is tragic and sad that Charlie Kirk wasn't given that chance.

What's more - he wanted the Epstein files to be released.
(09-12-2025, 04:07 PM)InsulindianFox Wrote: I will only post this one cause I really don't want to engage with you more as you are only using insults here.
 Journalist William Turton first reported on Kirk's comments in a January 2024 article for Wired (archived). According to Turton's report, Kirk made the statement while speaking at America Fest, a political convention organized by Turning Point USA, in December 2023.
Turton attended the event in person while working as a reporter for Wired. He provided an audio recording to Snopes, which verified that Kirk said:
Kirk made the comment while responding to a question from a student who said he was the subject of a Title IX investigation at their university after posting a derogatory message about transgender people on social media.


You know nothing about me but I’ll give as good as I get.

Context. You should listen to the entire exchange. Cherry-picking quotes from a longer, more nuanced conversation will often show the bias driven media for what it is.
(09-12-2025, 04:21 PM)InsulindianFox Wrote: What's more - he wanted the Epstein files to be released.

Yes, he was controversial and I believe he meant well in his heart, but was somewhat misguided in some respects. He also wanted to push mental health access as a priority for the American people.
"The only journey is the one within."
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