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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
An article discussing the labelling of CK's killer without evidence.

"Utah Governor Cox and others have labeled the accused shooter of Charlie Kirk a "leftist." But extremism analysts say the only clear indication so far is that he was deeply into online meme culture."

"YOUSEF: Well, yesterday, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller spoke with Vice President JD Vance, who was guest hosting Charlie Kirk's podcast. And there, Miller said certain left-wing groups were behind attacks on ICE officers or had incited riots. Earlier today, we heard much the same from Republican Senator Ted Cruz in a hearing with FBI Director Kash Patel - Cruz encouraging Patel to quote, "follow the money." He stated - again, without evidence - that he believes certain funders are putting, in his words, significant money that is spreading dissension and spreading violence. He specifically focused on the Antifa movement and said he wants it designated as a terrorist organization. And he said he wants to see RICO laws amended to facilitate those investigations and prosecutions."

What we know about the accused shooter of Charlie Kirk : NPR
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-19-2025, 01:41 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: That was my instant thought too.

But I received assurances from everyone here this means i can still have antifascist ideals and express an opinion that draws parallels between this administration and dictatorships so long as i remain non-violent when I do it.

plus my positions against fascism are largely shaped by the scapegoating and lies of regimes, particularly the Jews, LGBT, Gypsies, and Bolsheviks during the Holocaust, and it revolves around drawing attention to it when I see "mass demonization"  parallels in Modern society.  Which i see happening now. And blood also works in my favor too. 

And I'm trying the benefit of doubt thing.

Im ignoring the reality where ANY protest calling Trump a dictator can be deemed Antifa by association (now.)

Technically, "No Kings," a march I PROUDLY participated in could be deemed antifascist. Especially if there were some with flags, and there were. And while it's exactly like this administration to exploit that loophole, I have received assurances that will not happen. They are about constitutional rights to free expression. 

But if it does, what do assurances matter then?

You could also try being nicer to the cops that are there to help protect you while you are at it. They are people too and don't need you calling them names spitting on them and doxing their families when they are are just trying to keep the peace. Don't hide or cover for the trouble makers turn them in. Follow the rules express your feelings and be a positive influence on the community it's not supposed to be a war but it's quickly turning that way. Your demonstration should cause me to think not get angry and want you rounded up.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(09-18-2025, 09:06 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Example of the proper way to protest...

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...41-906.jpg]


Skipping lunch is a good start.  ;)

Now why kids would even care about an 'old' television talk show host is beyond me. I am sure anyone still in school could give two farts for Jimmy Kimmel
(09-19-2025, 05:03 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: That would be a short list indeed!

When I started my list of representatives who are socialists or have ties with communist countries, the list got so long that I decided it was a far shorter list of those who weren't. To toss a guess out there, I'd say around 10% don't seem compromised, although it is probably far less.



A huge percentage of it is Chinese Commie money.
Since people are posting wild and crazy absurd theories about the shooter .... here's one for ya' .. 

A week or so before he was murdered, Charlie Kirk, who is fundamentalist Christian, told a Catholic bishop that he went to Mass all the time with his wife, loved his 'Catholic pastor', and was 'this close' to becoming Catholic.  Perhaps the fundamentalists found a patsy to kill off Kirk before he left them and became a dreaded Roman Catholic!!

Story Here

Quote:The other was a personal exchange between Charlie Kirk and a Catholic bishop who happens to be my brother: Bishop Joseph Brennan of Fresno. The bishop has given me permission to divulge the content of that conversation.  A little more than a week before his murder, Kirk attended a pro-life prayer breakfast in Visalia, California, which is in the Diocese of Fresno. The bishop was among those in attendance and had a brief, private moment with Kirk. It was there that Kirk told the bishop about his Catholic wife and children and how he attended Mass with them. He punctuated this conversation with “I love my Catholic pastor.”   As they were parting to attend the more public portion of the prayer breakfast, Kirk mentioned speculation regarding his contemplating entering the Catholic Church, saying: “I’m this close.” 

Obviously I don't believe that shooter-anti-Catholic thing ... 
But I did find it interesting that Kirk was very close to becoming Roman Catholic.
That would have sent a ripple through MAGA world and all the fundamentalists that followed him.
They really can't stand the Catholic church .. or Catholics in general.
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Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
(09-17-2025, 03:03 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: My apologies.

But at least we can manage to do a proper military parade to honour your President.  Unlike your massive Country.

Why would we do it ourselves when the countries we're subsidizing can do it for us? At least we're getting something out of the money we're spending on your defense. I would say that you're putting the money you're saving on defense to good use, like healthcare and such, but it is my understanding that even with that extra money available you guys still have to wait 6 months to a year to be seen by a doctor or have to wait in emergency rooms for hours. 

But thank The Queen that people don't have to hear inconvenient opinions or memes that might make them uncomfortable.
(09-19-2025, 12:05 PM)MrGashler77 Wrote: Why would we do it ourselves when the countries we're subsidizing can do it for us? At least we're getting something out of the money we're spending on your defense. I would say that you're putting the money you're saving on defense to good use, like healthcare and such, but it is my understanding that even with that extra money available you guys still have to wait 6 months to a year to be seen by a doctor or have to wait in emergency rooms for hours. 

The US has some of the worst health care outcomes in the developed world, certainly worse than the UK, despite spending far more on health care per capita.
(09-19-2025, 12:05 PM)MrGashler77 Wrote: Why would we do it ourselves when the countries we're subsidizing can do it for us? At least we're getting something out of the money we're spending on your defense. I would say that you're putting the money you're saving on defense to good use, like healthcare and such, but it is my understanding that even with that extra money available you guys still have to wait 6 months to a year to be seen by a doctor or have to wait in emergency rooms for hours. 

But thank The Queen that people don't have to hear inconvenient opinions or memes that might make them uncomfortable.


But we are upping our spending on Defence to 5% of GDP?


Our Queen died some time ago.  Perhaps you missed that?

No idea what the rest of your little rant is about, but our NHS has saved mine and Mrs C's lives several times, all free.

6 months to a year to see a Dr?

Maybe you mean to have major surgery.

GP's appointments certainly don't take anything like that.

I had my hip replacement two months after my GP referral.

But hate on.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(09-19-2025, 07:04 AM)quintessentone Wrote: An article discussing the labelling of CK's killer without evidence.

"Utah Governor Cox and others have labeled the accused shooter of Charlie Kirk a "leftist." But extremism analysts say the only clear indication so far is that he was deeply into online meme culture."

"YOUSEF: Well, yesterday, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller spoke with Vice President JD Vance, who was guest hosting Charlie Kirk's podcast. And there, Miller said certain left-wing groups were behind attacks on ICE officers or had incited riots. Earlier today, we heard much the same from Republican Senator Ted Cruz in a hearing with FBI Director Kash Patel - Cruz encouraging Patel to quote, "follow the money." He stated - again, without evidence - that he believes certain funders are putting, in his words, significant money that is spreading dissension and spreading violence. He specifically focused on the Antifa movement and said he wants it designated as a terrorist organization. And he said he wants to see RICO laws amended to facilitate those investigations and prosecutions."

What we know about the accused shooter of Charlie Kirk : NPR


I absolutely love the NPR 'default boilerplate standard must-put' propaganda trash at the end:
Quote:YOUSEF: You know, for many years, it's been the consensus of analysts - and the FBI up until this year - that the most persistent and lethal threat in the U.S. has come from violent white supremacists. The data support this. Far-right actors have been behind deadly mass shootings at synagogues, Black churches, Walmarts, grocery stores and other places. If indeed the allegations bear out here, this would represent a significant escalation in violence from what's perceived as the political left.
 
CHANG: That is NPR domestic extremism correspondent Odette Yousef. Thank you, Odette.
(09-19-2025, 12:21 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I absolutely love the NPR 'default boilerplate standard must-put' propaganda trash at the end:

Well, this online radicalization of nihilistic violent extremists is complex and it seems to be something that is new and unfolding in law and criminal psychology. The online world is not a great place for some people.
"The only journey is the one within."



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