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Catholic Exorcist- 6 Most Dangerous Things Spiritually
#41
(12-07-2025, 11:52 PM)Astyanax Wrote: Get together and work out a coherent story, the two of you, then get back to us.

Lol Lol Lol

Demons are not born, they are created.
Each one is a species unto itself.   Diverse.   
Example - Some humans are blind, some are sighted, some are deaf,
some can  hear, some are smart, some are stupid, etc
Each demon is unique with it's own characteristics and abilities.
Billions of these unique entities.
The two things they all have in common ... they are pure spirit and they hate.

There is no creating a 'coherent story'.   
Each persons experience with them will be according to whatever demons they deal with.
​​​​​​​I hope you don't have to find out the hard way.
#42
(12-08-2025, 03:13 AM)Sirius Wrote: why are you so keen to prove me wrong.

In what way am I trying to prove you wrong? I’ve told you several times now that I believe you do see what you say you see. It is also true that I believe what you see doesn’t exist; but that is my judgement based on my experience, and it is as legitimate as yours. If you can prove me wrong by all means do so – I should welcome the correction. But you haven’t done that, have you? All you’ve done is double down on your claims and get hotter and hotter under the collar.

Your failure to supply proof for your claims validates my judgement – that you are simply a credulous person who has read too much superstitious nonsense in her lifetime and who is, unhappily, subject to hallucinations as many folk are. I shall continue to judge you so until you supply me with convincing evidence that the things you see are actually real.
 
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You have it backwards: religious belief, specifically as it addresses perception of supernatural reality, is beyond the ambit of science... Else it wouldn't be supernatural. Capiche?

Ooh, tough guy he talk da mafioso. Scary scary.

So where’s this supernatural reality, then? Show us. Prove it’s there. Prove it exists.

Or if that’s too hard for you, answer this question instead for half points. What demonstrable difference is there between superstition and the supernatural?
 
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There is no creating a 'coherent story'. 

I agree one hundred per cent. Sadly, until you come up with one, none but the utterly credulous will believe you. So where are all those exciting details that would convince us you’re telling the truth? If you had any, you would surely be eager to publish them.

Or are you going to claim that you are in possession of esoteric knowledge that would be dangerous if shared with the uninitated? If that’s your position, then my reply to you is: bunkum, ma’am, and well you know it.
#43
Arguing religious apologetics is like trying find all the decimal numbers in between 1 and 2. There's always infinite regress.  No cosmic god eggs to behold, unless you like the multiverse.  And even then.

 Exorcism reminds me of AA. Like a great psychodrama of higher powers to paint the cracked facade a new color and imagine its an entirely new house.  There's a pink cloud and then to the flood again...

Or even worse, after being saved by a blue book, their rewired meth brain starts thinking an archangel guides them and tells them who else has lost their way. 

Angelic possessions are every bit as deranged as demonic ones.

Every disconnected thing becomes a synchronicity from god.  Everything is a sign god made happen just for them to behold. Then life becomes a perpetual reset of signs unfilled and reimagined meanings.
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#44
(12-09-2025, 01:16 AM)Astyanax Wrote:  where are all those exciting details that would convince us you’re telling the truth? 

Unfortunately nothing will convince you of the truth except for your own demonic encounter.
And, even with your snarky arrogant attitude, I hope that doesn't happen to you.
You are free to read an exorcists diary and books of what he has encountered if you like.
But likely you won't.   Whatever.

MSGR Rossetti's Diary of an Exorcist and His Books Here
#45
Is it possible that the demonic is a manifestation of a single evil?

Are demons as multifaceted as the psychological maladies they might be confused with?

How many different 'conceals' might there be for the demonic....

As with psychology, this affectation of the human experience is peppered with social biases and pressures, all born of traditional and cultural baggage.... never minding potential religious and spiritual 'creativity.'

Still... the most prevailing wisdom seems to recognize the phenomenon as deserving special attention.

Considering the pain and suffering which is part of the experience, maybe that a good thing.
#46
(12-07-2025, 11:52 PM)Astyanax Wrote: But remember, you’re the one who’s arguing about it, not I. I’ve already explained that I believe you believe what you say. Obviously I don’t believe it’s factually true; my own experience indicates strongly to me that it is not. That’s my opinion, based on what I have seen and learnt through a long and studious life, and I have as much right to it as you have to yours. Why are you so keen to prove to me that I am wrong?

FREE WILL. 

Yes I believe that all men on earth have FREE WILL to walk the dark or light path along with every other decision they make throughout their life. Those who disparage the existance of a God say that to disparage, discredit and IN MY OPINION to promote the evil one. When I say God that includes Budda, Mohammed and others as God depending on the race and religious demnomination

Based on your Avartar picture I will assume that you have respect towards Snake Charmers and are somewhat knowledgeable of Hinduism. I got that from Google Lens so do tell if I am off. 

Why all the noise from you on Catholic aka Christian religion? Heres what Google AI writes about Hinduism and what it has to say about FREE WILL:


Hinduism presents a complex view of free will, acknowledging it as essential for moral action and karma (cause and effect) but also recognizing limitations from past actions (destiny/prarabdha) and the divine will, with the ultimate goal of transcending the ego-driven "doer" through spiritual knowledge to achieve liberation (moksha). Humans have free will to choose their actions (purushartha) in the present, creating future karma, but are bound by past karma, creating a dynamic interplay between fate and freedom. 

So the above also reflects that Hinduism also seems to recognize Free Will abeit with past life constraints. So, we now have two documented faiths that recognise Free Will.  These arent opinions of mine or the other OP. They are part of the respectuve religion.  But as you have written there are other factions of Christianty [Calvin], etc that DONT recognise Free Will. 

I will assume that since your into snakes and radical by name that your faith is possibly one of the extreme denominations?: 

Vaishnavism/Shaivism in Hinduism, often stemming from historical disagreements or interpretations of scripture and leadership. These groups form within major faiths, differing on everything from worship styles to core theology, while sharing foundational principles. 

Basically from an possible extreme denominational perspective you believe what you believe and in your mind everyone must agree with you. Thats the number one fault in humanity, among everyone here on earth, as we are all different and have different beliefs. Yet we apply our beliefs to everyone and beat them into submission to agree with us? However, thats your right also as a human. 

Life is DEEP.
#47
I have zero special jurisdiction to opine in such a deep topic...

But I feel that we (meaning all humanity) often look to courses of life direction, and actions to that effect are either a dark (meaning evil) path or a "non-evil (at least)" path...

Could it be that the it's not actually the path that is dark, but that it can be traveled 'darkly?"

Could that shift in perspective provide a different light on the subject, rather than choice of path...
but instead, "how" you travel?

Maybe bliss is when you've nothing to "look" for anymore... everything is just 'there.'

I suppose it could be.

Could the "demonic" exploit that?
I wonder.
#48
I don’t believe in demons at all, but if we’re going to play the “don’t believe in X or you’ll attract demons” game, then let’s be honest: Christianity is the one that literally invented the demon problem. Pagan gods weren’t stalking people in their sleep or waiting for someone to read the wrong book so they could jump out and cause chaos. That whole idea comes straight out of the Christian rulebook.
So by that logic, believing in the Christian God is the actual thing that introduces demons into your worldview. Before that, you didn’t even have anything to worry about. It’s like buying a smoke alarm and then panicking that it might go off — well, you installed it!
If you don’t believe in any of this stuff, none of it applies anyway. But it’s a bit funny to warn people about “opening doors” when your own belief system is the one that built the house, the doors, and the demons inside it.
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#49
(12-10-2025, 07:30 PM)Rigel4 Wrote: I don’t believe in demons at all, but if we’re going to play the “don’t believe in X or you’ll attract demons” game, then let’s be honest: Christianity is the one that literally invented the demon problem. Pagan gods weren’t stalking people in their sleep or waiting for someone to read the wrong book so they could jump out and cause chaos. That whole idea comes straight out of the Christian rulebook.
So by that logic, believing in the Christian God is the actual thing that introduces demons into your worldview. Before that, you didn’t even have anything to worry about. It’s like buying a smoke alarm and then panicking that it might go off — well, you installed it!
If you don’t believe in any of this stuff, none of it applies anyway. But it’s a bit funny to warn people about “opening doors” when your own belief system is the one that built the house, the doors, and the demons inside it.

It seems natural to me that almost any object or worship will have it's opposite... almost universally.. the exceptions stand out.

Believing in and faith... begs the opposite as antagonist.

It seems just as natural that some would reject the polar binary...

That path hasn't ended...
#50
(12-10-2025, 07:30 PM)Rigel4 Wrote:  it’s a bit funny to warn people about “opening doors” when your own belief system is the one that built the house, the doors, and the demons inside it.

Christianity, Judaism and Islam didn't invent demons.  (or Jinn).
They just educated people on what was always there and that they didn't understand.



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