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BREAKING NEWS: Slovak Government Official Claims DNA in Vaccines
#51
(03-26-2025, 10:34 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Why does this thread remind me an endless maze of rational "fact-based" argumentation? Does this approach even work any more, cf., the Kennedy assassination, and 9/11? Post-truth pastiche as a preformative art. I guess that's all that's left, outside the church or laboratory.

Actually, to me, this thread is the opposite as it started off with unqualified persons (1. a veterinarian and 2. a medical doctor with nothing to do with genetics etc.) speaking about a field of study they know nothing about. So, it's the furthest thing from "fact-based" as it can get.
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

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#52
Thread lacks magic.

Watch the first 3 minutes here, or read the comments, whatever does you. Can't figure out who is classified as human and who is not.
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#53
I had a draft thread which speaks to this... but just to contribute a thought from there:

A (presumed) medical dictionary offers a brief definition of human:

"A member of the primate genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens..."

Is this technicality to be of use to someone?

Aliens, Big Foot, Pseudo-humans, etc.

Or - to be a little Orwellian, 

Will there be humans AND "humans+"?

Frightening possibilities... check.
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#54
(03-26-2025, 10:43 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Actually, to me, this thread is the opposite as it started off with unqualified persons (1. a veterinarian and 2. a medical doctor with nothing to do with genetics etc.) speaking about a field of study they know nothing about. So, it's the furthest thing from "fact-based" as it can get.
What puzzles my mind (for a moment, then I have to let it go, it is not healthy to entertain insanity) is that after all of your opinions, in ATS and here, which did not pass the test of time and truth, there is no change of conduct, no acknowledgment of being wrong.
Is this not a sort of psychological disability?
Sorry about my english, I'm not a native.
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#55
(03-26-2025, 10:34 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Why does this thread remind me an endless maze of rational "fact-based" argumentation? Does this approach even work any more, cf., the Kennedy assassination, and 9/11? Post-truth pastiche as a preformative art. I guess that's all that's left, outside the church or laboratory.

Debate has been a part of scientific progress for a long time, an important aspect when denying ignorance. It is a good thing when people can be civil and reasonable about it.  It is not always an easy thing to do when passions are going and does take practice to get better at it.

I don't know how much of a difference it really makes. For myself, it has helped polish up a few parts of the puzzle having ideas and perceptions challenged.
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(03-27-2025, 01:42 AM)chivo Wrote: What puzzles my mind (for a moment, then I have to let it go, it is not healthy to entertain insanity) is that after all of your opinions, in ATS and here, which did not pass the test of time and truth, there is no change of conduct, no acknowledgment of being wrong.
Is this not a sort of psychological disability?
Sorry about my english, I'm not a native.

Prove to me that veterinarian and the doctor without any field of study in genetics are qualified to speak on anything to do with mRNA or DNA subject matter. You won't be able to, and that is the truth when dealing with cult-like or blind loyalty behaviour (psychological manipulation) where the 'no acknowledgment of being wrong' sadly lies. I will always call out ridiculous unqualified people trying to speak on subject matter they know nothing about. Deal with it or don't, your choice.
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

Plato's Chariot Allegory
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#57
(03-27-2025, 08:38 AM)quintessentone Wrote:  I will always call out ridiculous unqualified people trying to speak on subject matter they know nothing about.

Like the attack on HCQ by Anthony Fauci, a person that has never treated a patient. He did do a good job in demonizing all well known safe and effective treatments to get the emergency use authorization of the experimental mRNA therapy through.
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#58
(03-27-2025, 08:38 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Prove to me that veterinarian and the doctor without any field of study in genetics are qualified to speak on anything to do with mRNA or DNA subject matter. You won't be able to, and that is the truth when dealing with cult-like or blind loyalty behaviour (psychological manipulation) where the 'no acknowledgment of being wrong' sadly lies. I will always call out ridiculous unqualified people trying to speak on subject matter they know nothing about. Deal with it or don't, your choice.

Suggestion: listen to the message, then judge it, then judge the messenger. In that order.
You are making a mistake of logic, appeal to authority fallacy.
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(03-27-2025, 07:18 PM)Kwaka Wrote: Like the attack on HCQ by Anthony Fauci, a person that has never treated a patient. He did do a good job in demonizing all well known safe and effective treatments to get the emergency use authorization of the experimental mRNA therapy through.

The one thing I 'love' and I would go insane if I was more empathetic and dwelt on it, is the whole simple fact that no lockdowns and no mRNA 'vaccine' was ever needed.
Countless studies and trials were done, and companies were putting out products that showed all you had to do if you were afraid of getting this new cold virus was a simple spray; spray some salt water up your nose every day in the morning and gargle with salt water.
It killed like over 95% of virus/viral load and was essentially free, just like always.  Almost completely negates risk of infection, and not enough virus to spread either. 
Then, dread of dreads, if you actually were infected with this new virus, the old zinc, quercetin and vitamin C would lessen your symptoms and kill off the infection within a week or less. 

I am editing myself for those who would probably need mollification at my outrageous statement above (oh no! self critique of my own writing) by saying of course IF none of these sprays, and supplements successfully staved off the cold turning to pneumonia, like they often did in the past (remember that?) then of course you would be recommended to get some antiviral treatments for your lungs.  Then there is the whole thing about ventilators.....

At any rate, remember those news blurbs that got buried?  No brain swabs either, just proper hygiene....
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#60
"Brain swabs"?

Like, no one actually died of COVID?

Really?

I thought millions were going to be dropping like flies from the kill shots?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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