BREAKING: Magnitude 8.7 earthquake Russia, Tsunami Watch

[quintessentone]

It is reported this 8.8 magnitude quake was the 6th largest in recorded history and they also say that not every earthquake will produce a tsunami.

The future possibility of a megaquake from the Pacific plate:

[andy06shake]

Is this like the 4th large earthquake this month along the ring of fire? There is that 3.5 miles object approaching the inner solar system could it's gravity be tugging on the plates?

A 3.5-mile rock, unless superdense and very close, which would already cause major orbital concerns, wouldn't tug on tectonic plates.

Even large near-Earth objects, like Apophis, exert a negligible gravitational pull compared to Earth's forces.

[quintessentone]

A 3.5-mile rock, unless superdense and very close, which would already cause major orbital concerns, wouldn't tug on tectonic plates.

Even large near-Earth objects, like Apophis, exert a negligible gravitational pull compared to Earth's forces.

Yes, that is what is being posited out there, that planetary alignment and/or large near-Earth objects don't cause earthquakes. Then there are those that say that the science of that type of measurement is controversial. 

"measurement of planetary alignment causing earthquakes

The measurement of how planetary alignments affect earthquakes is a complex and ongoing topic of research. While some studies suggest a correlation between specific planetary positions and seismic activity, others find no significant relationship. The data and statistics presented in studies like the one by SSGEOS indicate that while there may be a clustering of major earthquakes around planetary conjunctions, the influence is not fully understood and requires further investigation. 

SSGEOS
The 'Jupiter Effect' and other similar theories have been proposed, but they lack scientific support and are not widely accepted by the scientific community. The influence of planetary alignments on earthquakes is still a subject of debate, and more research is needed to establish a clear understanding of the relationship between these alignments and seismic activity."

Solar system planetary alignment triggers tides and earthquakes | Journal of Coastal Conservation

It's the same old story, science rejecting exploration outside of their monetary funded boxes.

[andy06shake]

Yes, that is what is being posited out there, that planetary alignment and/or large near-Earth objects don't cause earthquakes. Then there are those that say that the science of that type of measurement is controversial. 

"measurement of planetary alignment causing earthquakes

The measurement of how planetary alignments affect earthquakes is a complex and ongoing topic of research. While some studies suggest a correlation between specific planetary positions and seismic activity, others find no significant relationship. The data and statistics presented in studies like the one by SSGEOS indicate that while there may be a clustering of major earthquakes around planetary conjunctions, the influence is not fully understood and requires further investigation. 

SSGEOS
The 'Jupiter Effect' and other similar theories have been proposed, but they lack scientific support and are not widely accepted by the scientific community. The influence of planetary alignments on earthquakes is still a subject of debate, and more research is needed to establish a clear understanding of the relationship between these alignments and seismic activity."

Solar system planetary alignment triggers tides and earthquakes | Journal of Coastal Conservation

It's the same old story, science rejecting exploration outside of their monetary funded boxes.

The idea that planets lining up cause earthquakes sounds cool, but it doesn't hold up.

The gravitational force from planets like Jupiter or Saturn is tiny by the time it reaches Earth, way too weak to move tectonic plates.

Your problem is that most claims about alignments causing quakes aren't backed by real data or peer-reviewed science.

Again, Earthquakes happen from stress building in Earth's crust, not because Mars and Venus are hanging out together in the sky.

Science isn't being closed-minded about anything, it just needs solid proof before saying something's real.

[quintessentone]

The idea that planets lining up cause earthquakes sounds cool, but it doesn't hold up.

The gravitational force from planets like Jupiter or Saturn is tiny by the time it reaches Earth, way too weak to move tectonic plates.

Your problem is that most claims about alignments causing quakes aren't backed by real data or peer-reviewed science.

Again, Earthquakes happen from stress building in Earth's crust, not because Mars and Venus are hanging out together in the sky.

Science isn't being closed-minded about anything, it just needs solid proof before saying something's real.

The problem is that science won't take on these studies because they've already decided the conclusion without measurements or doing the science.

It's been only within the last two decades that they are taking baby steps to measure spacequakes.

Spacequake - Wikipedia

[andy06shake]

The problem is that science won't take on these studies because they've already decided the conclusion without measurements or doing the science.

It's been only within the last two decades that they are taking baby steps to measure spacequakes.

Spacequake - Wikipedia

It's fair to want science to stay open to new ideas, but it's not true that scientists refuse to study these things.

Claims about planetary alignments and earthquakes have been looked at, but no solid link has been found.

Most alignments happen often, yet big quakes are rare and scattered.

As for spacequakes, those are real but they happen in Earth's magnetic field, not the crust.

Science moves slowly because it needs repeatable evidence and results to form theories.

It's not that researchers are ignoring ideas, they just need data that holds up under testing, not just patterns that look convincing.

Curiosity is welcome, but proof is the real ticket.

[quintessentone]

It's fair to want science to stay open to new ideas, but it's not true that scientists refuse to study these things.

Claims about planetary alignments and earthquakes have been looked at, but no solid link has been found.

Most alignments happen often, yet big quakes are rare and scattered.

As for spacequakes, those are real but they happen in Earth's magnetic field, not the crust.

Science moves slowly because it needs repeatable evidence and results to form theories.

It's not that researchers are ignoring ideas, they just need data that holds up under testing, not just patterns that look convincing.

Curiosity is welcome, but proof is the real ticket.

If quakes happen because of the magnetic field, then what measurements, exactly, did they use to come to the conclusion that Earth's magnetic field was not impacted by gravitational forces from planetary alignment or near-Earth objects. Another thought, how do these alignments and/or objects affect the Sun's magnetic field, which in turn could affect Earth's magnetic field? 

"Gravitational Planetary Alignment Forces on the Sun
The gravitational alignment of planets, particularly Venus, Earth, and Jupiter, has been found to influence the solar magnetic field. The tidal forces exerted by these planets produce a gravitational pull that can cause changes to the plasma on the surface of the sun. This influence is most pronounced during a maximum alignment of the three planets, which occurs approximately every 11.07 years. The study by Helmholtz-Zentrum Dresden-Rossendorf (HZDR) highlights the high level of concordance between the observed solar activity and the planetary alignments, suggesting a clocked process where the gravitational forces of the planets are indirectly setting the sun's solar cycles. "

"Unlocking the precise mathematical rules behind gravity’s influence continues to challenge and fascinate astronomers and physicists."

How The Sun's Gravity Shapes Our Solar System And Beyond - Smore Science

"Sun's Magnetic Field and Earthquakes
The relationship between the Sun's magnetic field and earthquakes is complex and not fully understood. While some studies suggest that solar activity, such as sunspots and solar flares, may influence seismic activity, others have found no significant correlation. The Sun's magnetic field is a dynamic force that can affect the Earth's atmosphere and climate, but it does not appear to be a direct cause of earthquakes. The current understanding suggests that while the Sun's magnetic field may have some influence on seismic activity, it is not the primary driver. Further research is needed to fully understand the connection between the Sun's magnetic field and earthquakes"

sun's magnetic field and earthquakes - Search

"Complex and not fully understood"

"Unlocking the mathematical rules continues to challenge and fascinate..."

"And never the twain shall meet."

It seems there will never be the required measurements without the $$$ invested in this type of research.

[quintessentone]

Most of my family lives on Maui. They had to move inland.

I hope they made it safely. I was appalled watching the traffic congestion during evacuation and people blaming Oprah Winfrey for not opening up the road on her 100 acre property. Which she has in the past during a fire evacuation, but authorities were slow to implement.

In this case the military opened up a road to aid traffic to flow faster inland and to higher elevations.

Why isn't Hawaii government fixing this traffic congestion problem and not relying on Oprah's private road or military to alleviate congestion during emergency situations?

[Quantum12]

I hope they made it safely. I was appalled watching the traffic congestion during evacuation and people blaming Oprah Winfrey for not opening up the road on her 100 acre property. Which she has in the past during a fire evacuation, but authorities were slow to implement.

In this case the military opened up a road to aid traffic to flow faster inland and to higher elevations.

Why isn't Hawaii government fixing this traffic congestion problem and not relying on Oprah's private road or military to alleviate congestion during emergency situations?

Here is a photo I took in August last year. It’s coming down from the Mountains into Lahaina, Maui. The traffic on a normal day was backed up so bad. My cousin told me they were stuck in traffic for hours last night.

In Lahaina, it’s one road in and the same road out. 

Thank you, yes my family is safe. I have not had a update today.

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BREAKING - The Klyuchevskoi volcano erupts after the 8.8 earthquake in Russia