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#21
(03-14-2026, 01:07 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: A better way to think of it in favor of your argument.  Biofuels takes something to ferment for a simple concept.  A barrel of crude weights 300 pounds.  Australia uses about 1,000,000 barrels a day.

A rough estimate of how much plant / wood material you need a year for biofuel.  300 x 1,000,000 x 365 days. Or 1.095e11 pounds of material a year.  Or 54,750,000 tons a year.  Australia uses about 24 billion pounds of grain a year or 12,000,000 tons.


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I got curious, AI spit this out when asked how much sugar beets does it take to make one barrel of biofuel?

”It takes approximately 
1.6 to 1.7 tons (roughly 3,200 to 3,400 pounds) of fresh sugar beets to produce one barrel (42 gallons) of biofuel (ethanol).”

I thought a barrel was 55 gallons?

'Sugar beets"? Its the 21st century.

For those of you not Australian, sugar beets were a major export product before federation. Federation bankrupted the sugar beet industry over east. Its not some minor trivial fact, so many people lost their livelihood.
I was not here.
#22
Some reasonable tips to start being more careful with fuel as the two weeks to flatten the curve strategy has failed once again. With American and Russian refineries also getting hit today, the contagion of oil scarcity is looking troublesome.   


#23
(03-20-2026, 08:26 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: 'Sugar beets"? Its the 21st century.

For those of you not Australian, sugar beets were a major export product before federation. Federation bankrupted the sugar beet industry over east. Its not some minor trivial fact, so many people lost their livelihood.


The point of the context was, if you want to switch to biofuels you still need millions of tons of raw materials like sugar beets to make up for the millions of barrels of fuel.  You can’t pull mass out of your ass.  It maybe the 21st century, but as far as I know you can’t pull mass out of thin air.  But you can convert mass into energy with nuclear physics but that doesn’t fill diesel generators  or diesel fuel tanks for farming and construction machinery.
#24
(03-24-2026, 03:38 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: The point of the context was, if you want to switch to biofuels you still need millions of tons of raw materials like sugar beets to make up for the millions of barrels of fuel.

No one thing is going to be the full answer in how we get out of this mess and avoid a Mad Max situation. At the moment, how can each of us cut down our demand 20% ? Little bit here, little bit there. Keep your revs down driving, use public transport where you can.

If people can find alternatives, do their bit, maybe there is a way out where it does not all crash?
#25
(03-24-2026, 04:09 AM)Kwaka Wrote: No one thing is going to be the full answer in how we get out of this mess and avoid a Mad Max situation. At the moment, how can each of us cut down our demand 20% ? Little bit here, little bit there. Keep your revs down driving, use public transport where you can.

If people can find alternatives, do their bit, maybe there is a way out where it does not all crash?

Turn off computers and servers.  Turn off crypto and AI farms. Turn off AC.  Drive less.  Order less delivery.  Get what you need in one trip.  Cut garbage pickup to once every two to three weeks. Car pool.  Ride a bike.  Clean dishes, laundry, and shower with cold water. Shower every other day.  Turn off lights not needed.  Turn off lights to billboards/ advertising signs.  Cut flights by twenty percent.  Read books in natural light.  Have more candle light dinners with cheese and bread and raw veggies.  Stop all motor sports.
#26
More petrol stations running out of Diesel.Price over $3 a litre at ones that do.Government not saying anything.
#27
(03-24-2026, 05:16 AM)Blackfingers Wrote: More petrol stations running out of Diesel.Price over $3 a litre at ones that do.Government not saying anything.


What’s sad is Australia was exporting about 238,500 barrels a day of sweet crude oil (the easiest to refine) to Asia.
#28
We have had too many Governments sell off our country instead of investing in building up our own industries like we used to.
#29
Not being sinical when I say this, but they could buy oil from the US, make a switch to all electric using nuclear energy, or and I know this might be out there, but they could easily grow blue green algae for their bio-diesel needs.
#30



The shock waves are building up with hundreds of gas stations empty and pressures building all over the place. The Labour government ain't keeping up with the reality.



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