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Australia is about to run out of fuel
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There is oil around Australia, the Great Barrier Reef and Great Australian Blight are a couple of spots still locked under ground. Has been no political will to start drilling as America wants to hold all the cards and Greenies want to get rid of the carbon cycle. Also got a few boutique refineries around, none big enough to feed a city.

A lot does come from SE Asia, which get a lot from the Middle East. I don't know what kind of cracked out hopium Trump is on to say the war is over. At least he is consistent as he has jumped on the BS crazy train.

Even if the war did actually end tomorrow, which ain't happening, it is still going to take months for the Middle East to get production back up with all the disruptions and shut downs. Even in the best of times, fuel can still be a struggle in Australian parts due to the nature of things. Those in the remote communities will be first hit.

How high does the price of fuel have to go before it goes Mad Max? $10/liter? Sales in electric cars are booming. Good for getting down the shops and moving little things. Diesel is great for moving the heavy stuff around and keeping those store shelves full.
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(03-14-2026, 04:15 AM)Kwaka Wrote: There is oil around Australia, the Great Barrier Reef and Great Australian Blight are a couple of spots still locked under ground. Has been no political will to start drilling as America wants to hold all the cards and Greenies want to get rid of the carbon cycle. Also got a few boutique refineries around, none big enough to feed a city.

A lot does come from SE Asia, which get a lot from the Middle East. I don't know what kind of cracked out hopium Trump is on to say the war is over. At least he is consistent as he has jumped on the BS crazy train.

Even if the war did actually end tomorrow, which ain't happening, it is still going to take months for the Middle East to get production back up with all the disruptions and shut downs. Even in the best of times, fuel can still be a struggle in Australian parts due to the nature of things. Those in the remote communities will be first hit.

How high does the price of fuel have to go before it goes Mad Max? $10/liter? Sales in electric cars are booming. Good for getting down the shops and moving little things. Diesel is great for moving the heavy stuff around and keeping those store shelves full.

We have oil. We have uranium. Its cost effective if we keep it in the ground.

Albo could free up ouur reserves in the Timor gap...
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(03-14-2026, 05:12 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Albo could free up ouur reserves in the Timor gap...

Makes more sense with the refining going on in SE Asia, less distance to transport. Still going to take years to get production rolling. The world has to live without Middle East oil now.

Electric cars will help fill some gap, good news for Elon. As city electricity demands increase, Nuclear energy becomes more economic. A less toxic form of nuclear would be more easily accepted. China looks close to H3 with their moon operations going on.

It would be nice when Israel falls and Washing DC gets a proper swamp drain that more of the suppressed energy tech does get out, if we are still around to make it that far.
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(03-14-2026, 06:02 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Makes more sense with the refining going on in SE Asia, less distance to transport. Still going to take years to get production rolling. The world has to live without Middle East oil now.

Electric cars will help fill some gap, good news for Elon. As city electricity demands increase, Nuclear energy becomes more economic. A less toxic form of nuclear would be more easily accepted. China looks close to H3 with their moon operations going on.

It would be nice when Israel falls and Washing DC gets a proper swamp drain that more of the suppressed energy tech does get out, if we are still around to make it that far.

We on the west have been getting our fuel from Singapore for decades, BP shut down in Kinana a long tome ago.

Price hikes are just gamming the market.
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(03-14-2026, 06:46 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Price hikes are just gamming the market.

Things have only just begun, the longer this drags out, the worst it is going to get as supply/demand get increasingly out of wack until more oil or something else comes back online.

At the moment there are still some reserves and market tricks around to stop it getting too crazy. What happens in 3-6 months as things are running dry and new sources not yet operational? My business is going to be impacted, can see a lot in the transport industry and living out in the country getting some pain.
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(03-14-2026, 07:39 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Things have only just begun, the longer this drags out, the worst it is going to get as supply/demand get increasingly out of wack until more oil or something else comes back online.

At the moment there are still some reserves and market tricks around to stop it getting too crazy. What happens in 3-6 months as things are running dry and new sources not yet operational? My business is going to be impacted, can see a lot in the transport industry and living out in the country getting some pain.

What new source? we get our fuel from Singapore and have done for well over two decades. If we have to  switch to bio fuel, we can make our own,  and we do mak biofuels.
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(03-14-2026, 08:07 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: What new source? we get our fuel from Singapore and have done for well over two decades. If we have to  switch to bio fuel, we can make our own,  and we do mak biofuels.

There is still a lot of oil in the ground around the world, some of it does get a bit tougher to get, takes time to set up the drilling rigs and pipe it to a ship.

Bio fuel has a place for those that can access it. Not at a level to fuel a city as far as I know. Fertilizer is also getting impacted from the Middle East situation along with other resource like Helium and Sulfur. Going to be problems in farming, electronics and other industries.

If you can adapt to life without refined crude oil great. For those that cannot, might not have much choice in the matter as things drag on.
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(03-14-2026, 08:07 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: If we have to  switch to bio fuel, we can make our own,  and we do mak biofuels.


A better way to think of it in favor of your argument.  Biofuels takes something to ferment for a simple concept.  A barrel of crude weights 300 pounds.  Australia uses about 1,000,000 barrels a day.

A rough estimate of how much plant / wood material you need a year for biofuel.  300 x 1,000,000 x 365 days. Or 1.095e11 pounds of material a year.  Or 54,750,000 tons a year.  Australia uses about 24 billion pounds of grain a year or 12,000,000 tons.


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I got curious, AI spit this out when asked how much sugar beets does it take to make one barrel of biofuel?

”It takes approximately 
1.6 to 1.7 tons (roughly 3,200 to 3,400 pounds) of fresh sugar beets to produce one barrel (42 gallons) of biofuel (ethanol).”

I thought a barrel was 55 gallons?
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(03-13-2026, 10:10 AM)Wage slave Wrote: Well, its currently with no opening scheduled. How many more days does it need to be closed for for you to stop calling bullshit?

How many days does it take a ship to reach Australia from the Straits of Hurmuz?

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind...

In short: If everything stopped tomorrow (no more tankers, no production), petrol reserves might last roughly 5–6 weeks from now—but that's not the realistic scenario. Officials say the country won't run out "this week or this month," and the focus is on managing the current surge rather than a total depletion.The 36-day figure gets thrown around a lot in headlines, but it's more about vulnerability to prolonged disruption than an imminent end date. Panic-buying is making things worse—government advice is to avoid it so normal supply can catch up.
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Australia is not about to run out of petrol in the immediate sense—there's no fixed countdown like "X days until zero." The current situation stems from panic-buying, hoarding, and supply chain disruptions (especially regional delivery delays), triggered by the ongoing conflict in the Middle East involving Iran, which has spiked global oil concerns and demand in Australia.Key facts from recent government statements and reports (as of mid-March 2026):Australia's national fuel reserves (including operational stocks and emergency holdings) are reported at around 36 days of petrol supply, 32 days of diesel, and 29 days of jet fuel. Some sources cite slight variations like 37 days for petrol or averages from 2024–25 data around 39 days, but the consistent government figure in recent days is ~36 days for petrol.
This covers consumption if no new imports arrived—but imports and shipments continue arriving as normal, so the reserves aren't depleting at a full rate toward zero.
The government has taken steps:Released about 6–7 days' worth of petrol (and ~5 days' diesel) from emergency stockpiles to ease pressure and give suppliers flexibility.
Temporarily relaxed fuel quality standards (e.g., allowing higher sulphur levels) for 60 days to add ~100 million litres/month extra into the market.

Energy Minister Chris Bowen and others have repeatedly stated supplies are secure, arrivals are on track, and there's no national shortage—though regional/rural areas (e.g., towns like Batlow) have seen stations run dry due to panic demand overwhelming local logistics.

In short: If everything stopped tomorrow (no more tankers, no production), petrol reserves might last roughly 5–6 weeks from now—but that's not the realistic scenario. Officials say the country won't run out "this week or this month," and the focus is on managing the current surge rather than a total depletion

.The 36-day figure gets thrown around a lot in headlines, but it's more about vulnerability to prolonged disruption than an imminent end date. Panic-buying is making things worse—government advice is to avoid it so normal supply can catch up.

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#20
Lots of talk now by parliament in Australia but still no action.
everybody seems to think rationing is coming but the government is still quite on a plan.
Fuel is $2.89 aud per litre and rising.



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