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(02-13-2025, 09:57 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I'm surprised you say belief doesn't matter, after the things you have been sharing; I say this because your energetic state and therefore the beliefs that create this specific state, the negative emotions and charges that you carry into death do matter. It will decide where you spend your time initially, in the astral waiting room, a personal hell, a new life, etc.
There are many 'belief systems' that in my opinion are accurate about what happens initially after death.
The Bardo Thodol of Tibet
The Book of the Dead or Pyramid Texts of Egypt
All speak of similar systems of light and energy, using metaphor.
Some say this life is just the prelude, the preparation for the real life that is next.
All true things, I did say I didn't want to go into this. I'm just going to leave this at fate and the epics of man trying to defy it.
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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(02-11-2025, 02:51 PM)FlyersFan Wrote:
I guess my question to you is...Do you think that DMT or any admixture of natural chemicals in the brain invalidates these experiences? I'm not talking about popping random street drugs.
IF so, how do you explain other things like the shared details of experiences like the 'feel-good void?' Or other synchronicities that happen?
In my soft NDE I didn't see loved ones waiting for me at the golden gates, but peep this...
My grandfather went in for a routine operation on his liver to remove a non-malignant mass; no complications were expected. I went to visit him in the hospital post-OP where they wanted to monitor him overnight. I KNEW that was the last time I'd ever see him. Just knew. That information just popped in when I saw him and hugged him. Around 4AM I awoke from sleep and saw my grandfather standing over me smiling. He was younger, and radiant! but he looked pretty much as I remember him while growing up.
Of course later in the morning the family phone calls made the rounds. He had passed in the early AM hours.
HOW do you explain that kind of hallucination, FF? How?!
My life has been filled with numerous such synchronicities. Answers come to me in sleep; revelations, songs and music, messages, and even visions like my grandfather.
In fact even recently, his wife visited me in a dream (Okay this one was an actual dream, not a vision or whatever.) She had a message for me concerning my brother. I have NEVER dreamed of her. And I'm sorry to say she and I had a terrible relationship and she's not someone ever on my mind. But her message got through.
Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss things that we don't fully understand just because it contradicts what we think we already know.
As always, I am skeptical myself. I observe and see it unfold without much reaction, but when stuff like that happens, it's really hard to dismiss and ignore and downplay as 'DMT nonsense.' It may be some kind of bridge.
And then my other question to you would be: As a person of faith in the God of Abraham, how would you validate or invalidate any biblical miracles? Maybe some of them old-timers and prophets had involuntary access to that DMT bridge without fully understanding it themselves.
It's a wild and fascinating life!
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(02-13-2025, 09:47 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: And then my other question to you would be: As a person of faith in the God of Abraham, how would you validate or invalidate any biblical miracles? Maybe some of them old-timers and prophets had involuntary access to that DMT bridge without fully understanding it themselves.
It's a wild and fascinating life!
If they got DMT release it was after and from groveling on the floor while being in the presence of something encompassing their whole universe and a giant gong sounding in there heads. I'm not of the Abrahamic faith, but I don't discount the stories. There is all the synchronicities, and dreams, or feelings or a sign and then there is the fuck you little worm grovel experience that leaves no doubt who or what you are encountering.
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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(02-13-2025, 09:47 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: I guess my question to you is...Do you think that DMT or any admixture of natural chemicals in the brain invalidates these experiences? I'm not talking about popping random street drugs.
IF so, how do you explain other things like the shared details of experiences like the 'feel-good void?' Or other synchronicities that happen?
HOW do you explain that kind of hallucination, FF? How?!
I didn't say that DMT or that lack of oxygen 'invalidates experiences'.
I said that it could explain them.
I also said that it might not explain them.
The bottom line is that I basically said that I don't know what to make of NDEs.
As for explaining shared details ... yeah, some have similar experiences, but a lot have experiences that are not shared too. Ever go to a NDE forum and read what happens to people? It's all over the place.
Not sure why you are asking me to explain your visitation. I've had plenty of ghostly and supernatural experiences as well that I have no explanation for other than 'probably really happened'.
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I drowned whilst night fishing. Fell in, pitch dark and v cold. Couldn't see the bank. Fully clothed and couldn't manage to swim or tread water. I drowned.
It was terrifying.
Mate got me out, not breathing, no pulse. Heart attack.
Everything went black when I was in the water.
Dead for about 10 mins.
Luckily another guy fishing knew CPR. Woke up with him doing CPR and I was like wtf are you doing and wtf is going on?
Nothing else.
He did the CPR good as he broke three ribs!
I only realized about the heart attack at Hospital when the doc said "you're doing well for a dead person"!
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(02-14-2025, 10:02 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I drowned whilst night fishing. Fell in, pitch dark and v cold. Couldn't see the bank. Fully clothed and couldn't manage to swim or tread water. I drowned.
It was terrifying.
Mate got me out, not breathing, no pulse. Heart attack.
Everything went black when I was in the water.
Dead for about 10 mins.
Luckily another guy fishing knew CPR. Woke up with him doing CPR and I was like wtf are you doing and wtf is going on?
Nothing else.
He did the CPR good as he broke three ribs!
I only realized about the heart attack at Hospital when the doc said "you're doing well for a dead person"!
One possibility/interesting thing is that (at least based on your posting style) I notice you come to life with a very hard-set, if not combative or pragmatic attitude. Your natural bent and life experiences, not to mention the fact that you had this physical near death experience while a full adult, perhaps points to your soul/subconscious blocking out anything that did not agree with your preconceived notions? In other words, a kind of traumatic amensia? Kind of like how 'alien abductees' block out trauma, perhaps you did have an out of body experience of a sort, you just are not recalling it. That happens a lot in astral projection literature as we have multiple 'brains' that store memories; physical memory, astral memory, soul memory.
Just riffing here.
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(02-14-2025, 12:11 AM)Sirius Wrote: and then there is the fuck you little worm grovel experience that leaves no doubt who or what you are encountering.
Yeah .. that's a demonic encounter for sure.
I encountered them once.
That's all it took for me to change a few things in my life.
NEVER want to encounter that again.
Still have some PTSD I think from the experience.
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(02-14-2025, 10:43 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yeah .. that's a demonic encounter for sure.
I encountered them once.
That's all it took for me to change a few things in my life.
NEVER want to encounter that again.
Still have some PTSD I think from the experience.
And that is where the disagreement starts and I blame it on corruption.
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But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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(02-14-2025, 10:58 AM)Sirius Wrote: And that is where the disagreement starts and I blame it on corruption.
The universe is a big place. You got negative types in the physical and you got em in the nonphysical too.
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(02-14-2025, 11:23 AM)sahgwa Wrote: The universe is a big place. You got negative types in the physical and you got em in the nonphysical too.
And the elemental types, natural forces and all the rest. A volcano, tornado and a tsunami isn't evil, but neither are they forces for good. It's not gray, it's a force of destruction and after something new arises, it always does and that is the purpose. World ending in the immediate vicinity, but overall just energy released. But we live in a world where there is just black and white with gray as static. Order is destructive to. Just because it's shiny doesn't mean it's good.
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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