AI Data Centres - Do The Math.

[RichardHurt]

I thought everyone switched to lead free solder. I haven't used lead solder in years. It also melts at a lower temperature. I would think that would be an advantage for surface mount chips.

I have much that I won't be using anymore. But man I can't tell you how many times I glance over and know I could easily make that connection.
I am not to good at soldering. I have to get a new conical and chisel every few months.

[Karl12]

I thought everyone switched to lead free solder. I haven't used lead solder in years. It also melts at a lower temperature. I would think that would be an advantage for surface mount chips.

Don't know mate, when it comes to 'e-waste' apparently 'lead, mercury, cadmium and arsenic' are definitely involved (which cause cancers, miscarriages and irreversible neurological damage in humans) so it doesn't sound good.

Funnily enough those exact same substances were also recently found at dangerously high levels in baby food (link).

E-waste is hazardous, capable of releasing up to 1,000 different chemical substances during improper disposal or recycling. In developing countries, where much e-waste is dumped or handled, workers are routinely exposed to contaminants such as lead, mercury, cadmium, and arsenic. These chemicals can cause cancers, miscarriages, and irreversible neurological damage.

link

Cheers.

[Karl12]

I am not to good at soldering. I have to get a new conical and chisel every few months.

Hey Richard when it comes to where all this immense processing power is actually leading to did you ever catch this interview regarding Gov Corp Technates and 'agentic AI'?

Apparently the WEF's 'Global Government Technology Centre' (situated in Berlin of all places) have just dictated a new report on it which is basically 'AI governance of humans'.

WEF partner IBM are also heavily involved.

Welcome to Your Nightmare: The Externalization of the Agentic State

Why they chose Berlin—a city with such a troublesome history regarding governmental totalitarian control—one can only speculate. But it is fitting.

GovTech Campus Deutschland is a collaboration between the German Government, German state agencies, the science community, and is also supported by the Eclipse Foundation.

Founded as the Eclipse Project by IBM in November 2001, with support from a consortium of software vendors, it builds on a dark legacy regarding the company's role in providing “GovTech” (punched cards) to Nazi Germany (as described in Edwin Black's book IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation). Strategic member companies include IBM, Microsoft, SAP, Oracle, Huawei, Fujitsu, Bosch, and Red Hat.

The GovTech they will now provide is something the Nazis could only dream of. The technological development has since changed the game and created the conditions for a control state with chilling consequences for the freedom of mankind.

LINK / VIDEO

According to the WEF this new global AI regime would 'challenge contemporary notions of participatory decision making' and be a 'fundamental shift' in the history of government so pretty serious stuff.

Cheers.

[Karl12]

Apparently 'there's no way the current U.S. grid can support this' and rolling blackouts, human energy rationing and 3-4 X electricity price hikes are predicted in the near future.

Energy watchdog warns about BlackRock engaging in an 'alarming takeover spree' moving aggressively to control America's power grid for AI data centre developments (link).


BlackRock’s $40 billion deal highlights the unstoppable AI data center gold rush


Blackrock chief Larry Fink is also now head of the WEF and there's a pretty eye-opening vid here about the company in case anyone hasn't seen it.

[Cosmo]

Lead-free solder is still not approved in Aviation applications. Not sure about other industries, so yes, lead is still out there.

[CriticalStinker]

Following on from this sobering article entitled 'On the Backs of Digital Slaves’ there's some pretty insane reading below about the exact cost (both human and environmental) of all these AI data centres popping up across the globe.








Apparently 'there's no way the current U.S. grid can support this' and rolling blackouts, human energy rationing and 3-4 X electricity price hikes are predicted in the near future.

Looks like authorities don't really give a toss about the environment either as AI data-centres are pumping out 135,000 tonnes of CO2 per year (same as 40,000 cars) and swallowing 17 billion gallons of water (link).

If you look at what OpenAI 'guru’ Sam Altman is openly predicting for the future then it's basically 'the Earth’s surface being tiled with data centres'.. just to power AI.

Are all these people insane?





Cheers.

40% of energy in VA goes to data centers. It’s a bit lopsided, because northern VA runs about 70% of global internet traffic.

That said, it shows what could be the case for more states here soon. Energy costs have more than doubled for many in the last year alone, likely from AI data centers coming online.

The first nuclear power plant is coming online in decades, purely to support some of the AI. But the short term will require more supplemental power as it takes time to build power plants.

[MonkMode]

Following on from this sobering article entitled 'On the Backs of Digital Slaves’ there's some pretty insane reading below about the exact cost (both human and environmental) of all these AI data centres popping up across the globe.








Apparently 'there's no way the current U.S. grid can support this' and rolling blackouts, human energy rationing and 3-4 X electricity price hikes are predicted in the near future.

Looks like authorities don't really give a toss about the environment either as AI data-centres are pumping out 135,000 tonnes of CO2 per year (same as 40,000 cars) and swallowing 17 billion gallons of water (link).

If you look at what OpenAI 'guru’ Sam Altman is openly predicting for the future then it's basically 'the Earth’s surface being tiled with data centres'.. just to power AI.

Are all these people insane?





Cheers.

Here’s an answer I got from AI:

…

here’s a realistic, data-based estimate:

• Running a large model like GPT-5 typically consumes around 0.1 to 1 watt-hour (Wh) per minute of interaction, depending on the complexity of your request and how many computing resources are used.
  

So, let’s quantify that:

1. Suppose this conversation runs for about 5 minutes.
   
2. At an average of 0.5 Wh per minute, that’s 2.5 Wh total (0.0025 kilowatt-hours).
   

To put that in perspective:

• That’s about the same energy as leaving a 1-watt LED night-light on for 2½ hours, or
  
• About 1/150th of the energy it takes to boil a single cup of water in an electric kettle.
  

However, when millions of people are chatting simultaneously, those small numbers add up. If 10 million people each had a similar 5-minute chat, that’s about 25,000 kilowatt-hours, roughly enough to power a few thousand U.S. homes for a day.

…

AI doesn’t use anywhere near the amount of energy as people do, currently

If AI replaced all jobs, and there was universal income, that may even lead to less energy consumption…  Would there be less energy needed for human labor, than more energy needed for AI labor?  Hmmmmm… Not sure yet…

[CriticalStinker]

Here’s an answer I got from AI:

…

here’s a realistic, data-based estimate:

• Running a large model like GPT-5 typically consumes around 0.1 to 1 watt-hour (Wh) per minute of interaction, depending on the complexity of your request and how many computing resources are used.
  

So, let’s quantify that:

1. Suppose this conversation runs for about 5 minutes.
   
2. At an average of 0.5 Wh per minute, that’s 2.5 Wh total (0.0025 kilowatt-hours).
   

To put that in perspective:

• That’s about the same energy as leaving a 1-watt LED night-light on for 2½ hours, or
  
• About 1/150th of the energy it takes to boil a single cup of water in an electric kettle.
  

However, when millions of people are chatting simultaneously, those small numbers add up. If 10 million people each had a similar 5-minute chat, that’s about 25,000 kilowatt-hours, roughly enough to power a few thousand U.S. homes for a day.

…

AI doesn’t use anywhere near the amount of energy as people do, currently

If AI replaced all jobs, and there was universal income, that may even lead to less energy consumption…  Would there be less energy needed for human labor, than more energy needed for AI labor?  Hmmmmm… Not sure yet…

I think right now data centers are roughly 5% of US energy right now. But what that doesn’t take into account is they all centralize to locations that have proper internet infrastructure to handle their bandwidth. This means it puts localized strain in certain areas.

It also puts strain on other things aside from energy. For every 1mW of power a data center uses, the have 2-3kW of lead acid or lithium batteries to make sure nothing turns off in case of power blips or outages. That’s the industry I’m in, I sell and implement the battery systems and generators that turn on after the hand off.

[BeyondKnowledge]

I posted this video in tha anti AI thread but I think it needs posting here too. 




It goes over just how much network and computing resources some AI systems use.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Hey Richard when it comes to where all this immense processing power is actually leading to did you ever catch this interview regarding Gov Corp Technates and 'agentic AI'?

Apparently the WEF's 'Global Government Technology Centre' (situated in Berlin of all places) have just dictated a new report on it which is basically 'AI governance of humans'.

WEF partner IBM are also heavily involved.






According to the WEF this new global AI regime would 'challenge contemporary notions of participatory decision making' and be a 'fundamental shift' in the history of government so pretty serious stuff.

Cheers.

They don't realize they are building their replacement as a governing body.

They seem eager to lose power but don't understand that is what they are doing. Clueless fools in charge.