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(01-27-2026, 07:41 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I don't recall mentioning Joe Biden.

And non-US citizens can't vote as far as im aware in your nation.

I live on an island Solvedit, geography dictates or borders are not exactly open, so...

As to who i will vote for, its about 4 years away, i don't have a clue....


Do you have to clog up the thread with pointless rigmarole?

Do you plan to vote for a candidate who wants to drop enforcement preventing immigrants from entering your country illegally, or preventing them from getting work?

Have you ever voted for a candidate who favored dropping restrictions to undocumented immigrants entering or working in your country?

And don't be silly. Immigrants use boats. They also are sometimes able to buy a plane ticket or a boat ride.  It's not the gosh darn ocean keeping the undocumented immigrants out of NZ, it's the government which you vote over.
(01-27-2026, 07:42 PM)Solvedit Wrote: First, you can't be sure they're tracking undocumented people thoroughly.

Second, there may be a replacement going on in which sanctuary cities don't like their own urban poor but realize they may be eligible for federal support on some sort of benefits.  The cancellation of most domestic auto production suggests this is the case.  Unfortunate shows like "hardcore pawn" may have furthered the cause of people who want to pull this off.  Outtakes are available on Youtube.

That doesn't really add up.

Your nation's agencies do track undocumented people through taxes, schools, and the census, so they’re not "ignoring" them.

And the idea that sanctuary cities are trying to replace their own poor with immigrants for federal benefits is just made up.

As i have already explained, most federal aid isn't available to undocumented immigrants because they are...undocumented.

The car factorys closures happened because of automation, global trade, and supply issues, not immigration.

And shows like "Hardcore Pawn" have nothing to do with this.

Blaming a reality TV show for "encouraging" this?

Totally ridiculous.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(01-27-2026, 07:43 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Well, if they did open fire on ICE, they would only be doing their Constitutional duty according to the 2nd Amendment and the Federalist papers:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Federalist No. 29

Federalist No. 46

Explaining the proposed Second Amendment, Madison’s ally Tench Coxe, a delegate to the Continental Congress for Pennsylvania, wrote: “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”

Trump has not just threatened, but has attempted to break the balance of powers of the other branches of US government, and assert himself as the supreme executive authority over the country. He has become a tyrant.


Okay, you are for an insurrection.

Got it.

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You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(01-27-2026, 07:41 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: It's what we call lawyers in "the colonies"



No

That would be 'Counsellor "


You aren't our Colony any more.

But you are welcome to come back into our Monarchist hegomemy 


Actually, no
  
Get on with your own crises before you come crying back.

If we'd have you.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(01-27-2026, 07:50 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: No

That would be 'Counsellor "


You aren't our Colony any more.

But you are welcome to come back into our Monarchist hegomemy 


Actually, no
  
Get on with your own crises before you come crying back.

If we'd have you.

We'll toss in Iceland.

 Lol Lol Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(01-27-2026, 07:48 PM)Solvedit Wrote: Do you have to clog up the thread with pointless rigmarole?

Do you plan to vote for a candidate who wants to drop enforcement preventing immigrants from entering your country illegally, or preventing them from getting work?

Have you ever voted for a candidate who favored dropping restrictions to undocumented immigrants entering or working in your country?

And don't be silly. Immigrants use boats. They also are sometimes able to buy a plane ticket or a boat ride.

I hate to break it to ya fella, but you are responding to me and asking silly questions, LoL

Suggesting immigrants just "buy a boat or plane ticket" like it's a loophole is laughably simplistic.

Im just feeding you now, im away for a late-night "steak bake."

Have fun with all that immigrant hate.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(01-27-2026, 07:36 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Biden was US President 

What are you on about?

No Joe Biden-like figure left your borders open for four years.
(01-27-2026, 07:46 PM)vonclod Wrote: Obama deported plenty..how did he do it?

You have a game show host as a president, he wants everything to be a spectacle, maybe less spectacle?? Masked goons ain't the way..IMO

He may have deported more but they were soon back with no repercussions.

I notice job openings now available in my field and location. Even a few jobs I would like to apply for. Before, nothing in this area.
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(01-27-2026, 07:52 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I hate to break it to ya fella, but you are responding to me and asking silly questions, LoL

Suggesting immigrants just "buy a boat or plane ticket" like it's a loophole is laughably simplistic.

Im just feeding you now, im away for a late-night "steak bake."

Have fun with all that immigrant hate.  Saint2

How about you don't dodge the question with pointless rigmarole? 

If the US is doing wrong, then you must be supporting candidates who want to open your country's borders.  Are you?  

If there are no such candidates running, are you advocating for open borders and no labor enforcement?  Are you calling candidates?  Are you writing letters to the papers?  Are you drumming up support?  



Your country is not protected by oceans but by the government which you vote on, because immigrants can just buy a plane or boat ticket or sail their own boat or raft to Australia. 

In a time of national crisis, do you insist the US only hire perfect police, even though people are dying from the criminals the previous administration let in?  Do you insist they hire perfect police where you're from, even though there will be fewer and more people will wind up hurt as a result?

Last, if most immigration to Western nations is regulated, and most immigrants wind up contributing, why is the US wrong for wanting to restore that state of affairs?
(01-27-2026, 07:55 PM)Knows Wrote: He may have deported more but they were soon back with no repercussions.

I notice job openings now available in my field and location. Even a few jobs I would like to apply for. Before, nothing in this area.

Fair, I understand the frustration.



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