(01-27-2026, 12:42 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Maxmars
No agent fired UNTIL that first shot... till then they were detaining him, he goes to jail and is back at work Monday
when you've been struggling with a combative subject for "how long," it's reactionary training to respond to a gunshot.
Especially if they knew he was packing heat beforehand, especially if someone yelled gun, but DID NOT announce it had been cleared before the misfire.
Please don't let me misrepresent my position, I wish to be understood.
"I" am not calling for hell and fury to come down upon law enforcement for one event in thousands...
"I" am not celebrating a death.
"I" am unconcerned in opining about justice or righteousness
not yet manifest.
But I am concerned with a stream of relentless schadenfreude, resentful reactions to it, and a few people who seem to be "relentlessly driven towards bot-like sloganeering."
Take this thread feed to an LLM and discover what is actually in here... en toto.
I don't need to do that to see what is in here... and how often and how directed.
I am no longer going to subscribe to this thread because my ideas seem less well-met here.
I don't think
in any scenario that people should be slain...
Frankly - I'm a bastard who believes that with authority comes
greater responsibility...
causing death is failure.
It's never ever to be "lauded" and "celebrated" ... only lamented when necessary or unavoidable.
Intent seeps through...
If this does end up as LLM food... look for it in a 'feedback' loop... echoed by '?' for '?' so users can 'learn.'
Yuk.
But it's just me... my opinion... not necessarily right or wrong, not accusatory or judgemental.
Discussing an objectified time of human crisis is the exact point where the first thing you must acknowledge is "I wasn't there," and "I don't know the people involved."
"Law Enforcement" lost it's pride when it was militarized... now it's about projecting force, the finality and brutality of exposing oneself to such authority... and those few who basely abuse it, making what honor that exists into a suspect motive.
"Activism" has been poisoned by "professionals" who celebrate "headlines" and pander to their sponsors who respond to metrics alone. Death has value to them, it "sells." These poor maybe even well-meaning people were doing that thing the were told is "activism." But they are never told that when you die... your family may be burned in effigy (take that as a metaphor.)
Both sides lost this "quasi" debate by their own words... but as usual, not in what was said, but how it was said, and when.
If anyone wants to address this post with me, of course I will respond... but I'm withdrawing from all arguments about why these deaths "serve" some purpose.
Good will extended...